One of the last jobs before mona is on the road(registration

Post by **polo2k** » Fri May 30, 2008 10:49 am

Hey all, My minor lived all her life in the Isle of man (shes never had an MOT!!!) I should be able to find the original documentation. my question is: how do I go about registering her and then what is the correct sequence for MOT, TAX, insurance?

-Ta-

Post by **britab1967** » Sat May 31, 2008 7:48 am

Hi Polo2k

It's suprising with the number of peoplewho've restored minors on here that no one has been able to answer yours or my question about registering.

Here's my thoughts of the way forward assuming, like me, you have no V5 ie not registered with DVLA.

Complete V765 & V55/5 forms, the first is an application to keep the original reg number, the second the application to register the car.
You send these with a photo of the car and original log book or old style tax disk to the DVLA recognised owners club, in our case MMOC who check for authenticity and send them on to DVLA.

If its all ok you get the new log book

It's all here; http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Bu ... DG_4022312

I've heard people adivise that you take your log book to a local DVLA centre and get them to take a verified copy to send so that you dont loose the original.

With regard to what order after that I would guess it's got to be MOT, insurance & then TAX.

Insurance is invalid without current MOT.
You can drive to pre-booked MOT without TAX, make sure they note reg No. when you book so that police can checkif stopped.
Can't get TAX withou either of above.

Hope that helps, well done with resto & good luck, I'm hoping to get Molly back on the road for her 50th next year at the latest as I can't see me making it for the AGM.

Brian[/url]

Post by **alex_holden** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:13 am

Isn't it insurance before MOT because it's illegal to drive on the road without it? I thought insurance was valid without an MOT providing you are driving to or from a pre-booked MOT test, otherwise you couldn't legally drive to the test centre.

Post by **jonathon** » Sat May 31, 2008 9:03 am

From the recent experience of one of our customers, a car left in a secure garage with tax and valid insurance , but no MOT, is actually not insured.
This was the recent case of a traveller who's MOT had lapsed , but was off road as above. An engine bay fire destroyed everything forward of the windscreen, with a resulting ,very heavy repair bill, The insurance company wiped their hands of the claim saying that the car was not insured due to a lack of MOT. One very unhappy owner now severely out of pocket with no car,it was sold just to recover a fraction of its agreed value.

Post by **alex_holden** » Sat May 31, 2008 9:13 am

So you're saying we actually can't get away with driving a non-MOTed car to a pre-booked MOT test any more?

Post by **jonathon** » Sat May 31, 2008 9:24 am

No, not specifically, but it is worth asking your insurance company before you do. I just cannot believe that a car insured and taxed and in a secure lock up can have its insurance invalidated by no MOT. A basic 'laid up' policy would cover this.

Post by **wibble_puppy** » Sat May 31, 2008 9:26 am

I've had fully comp insurance on the van since last August. My insurance company know full well that the van has been off the road in three thousand pieces being restored for the last two or three years, and that there's no way it has an MOT

Isn't it better to get your vehicle insured before driving to the MOT station? Better to be on the safe side, in case you are involved in an incident - rather than knowing that you would definitely not be covered, isn't it best to know that you might be covered, for the sake of an extra day's insurance money? Best of all, discuss it with your insurance company and ask their advice.

wibble

Post by **polo2k** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:27 am

Thanks for the replys guys

Would it be the same procedure with a car thats never been registered in england? Mona was in the isle of man for nearly 40 years and the registrations in the isle of man are the only ones allowed to have MAN of MN in them so she would need a completely new (to her) registration. Would the plate be a modern number, or arg related, or a Q plate~???

Post by **wibble_puppy** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:45 am

hi polo2k,

maybe you would do well to speak to someone at the DVLA about your particular situation? I dunno, maybe someone on here will know the answer, though

good luck

wibble xx

Post by **polo2k** » Sat May 31, 2008 4:06 pm

ill probably give them a bell on monday, mona is coming together scarily quickly!

Post by **rob.hardy1** » Sat May 31, 2008 5:32 pm

21days to the national

Post by **polo2k** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:13 pm

who said that???

(whos got monday off work, probably) and a box of parts arriving too!

Post by **d_harris** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:19 pm

Polo3k, its not going to be a Q plate. Provided you can prove the vehicles identity then its going to be an age related plate. From my previous experiences with VWs its quite common to import em and they all get age related plates......

Post by **polo2k** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:27 pm

Dan_Harris wrote:Polo3k...

???????

Its for the minor, and its looking like it might not be as much of a chore as i was thinking.

Post by **d_harris** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:11 pm

^^^ sorry. Typo.

I was making the point that people import VWs all the time and they get age related plates, so you should have no probs getting an age related for the mog...

Post by **polo2k** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:13 pm

ahh cool

any one know how long this process is likly to take?

Post by **polo2k** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:17 am

Well im grinning like im hanging from my ears

I called them today and its a lot easier than I thought.
to recap; Mona is a 63 4 door that is from the isle of man (different registering body) and has been untaxed and off the road (since before SORN) for about 9 years!!!
She is getting close to finished and to get her a plate an on the road, here is the procedure.
1. Insure the vehicle by its chassis number (most insurers apparently do 2 week cover like this).
2. Book an MOT and hopefully pass.
3. Jump in another car and shoot off to the local DVLA office (oxford or bristol for me) with: completed V55/5, MOT certificate, insurance cover note (just in case), and either an export certificate or the original log book, and also 55 of our queens notes.
4. With this the car will be registered and within 48 hours a plate number will be issued, which can then be made up

5. ENJOY!

So to recap, all in all, it should be within a week of the car being MOT`d

Post by **d_harris** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:44 am

Will they give you a tax disc at the same time? Or at least set the vehicle class? Else it might be another trip to the office....

Post by **polo2k** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:33 pm

Might be actually, because they dont issue the number there and then... DOH!