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loctite

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:32 pm
by wibble_puppy
often seen loctite advised as a way of making nuts and bolts stay where they are wanted. Not used it myself, being a novice in this crazy game ("Mornington Crescent!" :D)

when you want to undo the nut or bolt, does the loctite pose a problem?

grateful for advice :)

wibble xx

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:45 pm
by bmcecosse
No problem - a little force breaks the seal easily - but vibration won't do so. Nut and bolt must be clean and oil free for loctite to work. It's good.

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:45 pm
by alex_holden
Not in my experience. Threadlock is supposed to stop the bolt vibrating loose rather than gluing it solid.

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:48 pm
by wibble_puppy
Thank you for explaining that to me guys - always wondered how this worked!

So what do you do if you get oil on the nut? like many of mine have got?

wibble xx 8)

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:50 pm
by jonathon
Threadlock gets my vote :wink:

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:51 pm
by wibble_puppy
Different product, same general idea? :)

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:51 pm
by alanworland
Loctite Studlock 270 is what I have used and been very pleased with it - I last used it a few weeks ago on my main bearing and big end caps. I originally locked these fixings up many years ago and when I took them apart recently they actually unwound the main bearing studs, but a little application of heat (no more than 250c) breaks the bond down if required. Verdict - good stuff (threads need to be clean)

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:54 pm
by alex_holden
wibble_puppy wrote:So what do you do if you get oil on the nut? like many of mine have got
Wash it with white spirit and an old paintbrush/toothbrush.

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:55 pm
by alex_holden
wibble_puppy wrote:Different product, same general idea? :)
I think threadlock is a generic term while Loctite is the best known brand name manufacturer. There's actually a confusingly large number of different types of threadlock - I just use the 'general purpose' stuff.

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:33 pm
by bmcecosse
Loctite make a whole range - possibly thousands of diffrent products - threadlock grade will be fine. And yes - you must degrease the parts for good success - I suggest celly thinners or Poundland aerosol carb cleaner are much better than white spirit which leaves an oily film.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:55 am
by alex_holden
bmcecosse wrote:And yes - you must degrease the parts for good success - I suggest celly thinners or Poundland aerosol carb cleaner are much better than white spirit which leaves an oily film.
White spirit works fine - I've degreased hundreds (maybe thousands) of parts in it. Cellulose thinners will work but it is harsher, more expensive, and more likely to irritate your lungs/skin. What doesn't work is meths - I've tried it a couple of times when I've run out of white spirit and it just won't dissolve the grease.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:44 am
by bmcecosse
But these days some 'white spirit' is nothing more than light kerosene - it's a very loose term and can mean almost anything. But yes - it will degrease parts - but not completely.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:20 pm
by ian-s
Cellulose thinners acts as an accelerant . Loctite marketed an accerant that was virtually thinners . Loctite can be had in all grades from High temp high strength to easy break regular maintainence grade. I forget all the numbers now . I expect if you google it you will get all the info or ask your supplier.
Note though, loctite will cause plastics to deteriorate and also does not work on stainless steel.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:08 pm
by wibble_puppy
thanks, ian-s! bought me some loctite today in Namrick, I think it was number 245 or something like that?

So which fixings does one put it on? not all of them, I presume?

wibble 8)

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:12 pm
by bmcecosse
Never heard of it 'not working' on stainles steel ! It's anaerobic - ie - it sets solid whenever there is a lack of oxygen. The type of steel makes no odds.

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:00 pm
by Innovator
My car is held together with Loctite (various grades). It is fantastic stuff. Throw away all those useless spring washers and use some Loctite.

I use 245 on threads and 638 to hold in bearings. The 638 is great as it means you dont need any mechanical means of holding bearings in.

It works on all metals. A lot of my applications are stainless and aluminium and both are fine..