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Anyone know this car?
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:46 pm
by stitch-up
Just wondering if anyone knows this car?
My partner purchased it for her son who'd just passed his driving test.
As he has no interest in cars, it was a bad choice, this is a car for an enthusiast who wants to restore it. My partner's son doesn't want to get his hands dirty!!
Wish I had the time and space but most of my time is spent driving something a little quicker
John
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:12 pm
by alex_holden
That's your daily driver?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:10 pm
by stitch-up
Yes, I drive it back and for to work each day, even in the rain

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:55 pm
by 8009STEVE
The Ariel Atom. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:39 am
by dunketh
My partner's son doesn't want to get his hands dirty!!
Tell him to stop being such a girl.
I love the atom - just what I'd have if it never rained, I had no dog and I had the spare cash to buy one.
Its even got space for the wife - though I cant see where the asda shop is going to go...
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:14 am
by Kevin
Looks quite a good un from the photo

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:41 pm
by stitch-up
Hi all
Thanks for the replies - for some reason I wasn't getting the notification emails!
It's 9 months since I posted and the poor old moggy has sat outside the house - dumped!
Anyway, I got very annoyed that it had just been dumped and I've decided it's now mine

The cold wet and the Ariel Atom forced my decision.
I put the jump leads on it tonight and let the engine tick over for a while. Tomorrow I'll go over the breaks, lights and other MOT stuff.
I did notice the ignition light was on continually. Measured the voltage on the battery terminals = 11.9volts with engine running! So, either the dynamo (a Lucas C40T) is duff or the control box needs attention. What;s the usual cause?
I started the car with keys from a suitcase, the door locks are shot too! Where's the best place to get these?
Cheers
John
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:54 pm
by alex_holden
stitch-up wrote:I did notice the ignition light was on continually. Measured the voltage on the battery terminals = 11.9volts with engine running! So, either the dynamo (a Lucas C40T) is duff or the control box needs attention. What;s the usual cause?
Try cleaning the contacts in the regulator box with some fine emery paper.
I started the car with keys from a suitcase, the door locks are shot too! Where's the best place to get these?
ESM sell matched sets of lock barrels and keys.
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:54 pm
by PSL184
Hi John - You made a good choice there

Lock sets can be bought from any of the online retailers... Bull Motif, Moris Minor Centre Birmingham, ESM etc... Just do a Google for their websites.. Ign light is probably sticking dynamo brushes (assuming it was OK before). Just give them a clean and all should be OK. Happy Minoring

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:44 pm
by stitch-up
Thanks for the tips guys.
Looking forward to getting it roadworthy.
John
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:59 pm
by bmcecosse
Try just giving the dynamo a bang with a hammer - to loosen the brushes off. I'm assuming the fan belt is present and correct of course! Proper job is indeed to remove and clean - but hey - it's cold outside! The car looks great in the original picture - didn't look like much 'restoring' required. I trust the twerp who 'dumped ' it - didn't get anything else to drive!
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:39 pm
by stitch-up
Thanks for the reply
I put the dynamo back in the car today, got the battery on charge and I'm gonna start it tommorow and check the voltage on the dynamo. If necessary, I'll take it out again and examine the brushes.
HOw does one get the brushes out? Probably quite obvious with the dynamo on the bench! Is it possible to get to the armature?
Cheers
John
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:09 pm
by bmcecosse
Early models had a cover held with a pinch screw/nut. Release -and slide the cover away. I think later models you probably need to take the complete end-plate off to get at the brushes. I changed to alternators 40 years ago -so a bit rusty on dynamos now !
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:47 pm
by stitch-up
This is the dynamo on mine
Not messed with dynamos in years

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:02 am
by nigelr2000
Seems you all missed the obvious dynamo problem...loss of residual magnetism which is required to make it generate an initial curent to bring the cutout contact in on the regulator. If it has been laid up for a long time the dynamo requires "flashing" that is apply a cable from the battery to the "F" connector on the dynamo for a few seconds and it should burst back into life. I remember it was a common problem when I was in the RAF on cooling rigs ( ford consul engine) that had been laid up all winter.
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:00 pm
by PSL184
I'm not questioning your experiance at all Nigel. but, I've usually found that normal running restores the magnetic requirement without additional "flashing" - even when converting from pos to neg earth I've never had to independantly flash a dynamo... Could be a possibility in this case though of course

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:15 pm
by PSL184
stitch-up wrote:Thanks for the reply
I put the dynamo back in the car today, got the battery on charge and I'm gonna start it tommorow and check the voltage on the dynamo. If necessary, I'll take it out again and examine the brushes.
HOw does one get the brushes out? Probably quite obvious with the dynamo on the bench! Is it possible to get to the armature?
Cheers
John
You'll need to remove the end cover and you will find the brushes under there.... They look like this..
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HTH
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:54 pm
by stitch-up
Joined the 2 terminals on the back of the dynamo and measured the voltage to battery ground - didn't appear to be any output. Checked a few times with the engine running of course, but nowt.
Removed the dynamo again and attempted to undo the two long bolts, one came out fairly easily, the other however seemed jammed solid!
Anyway, to cut a long story short, I've order a recon from my local motor factors - £33 doesn't seem to bad. Hope to fit it on Tuesday evening.
Thanks for all the help.
John
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:12 am
by mrbenn
Glad the car has an appreciative owner

Looks a nice one.