Fiat engine bits

[Wagoneer]

Hi all,
I've rolled my sleeves up and got stuck in with my car. The question is, are engine parts still available for the twin cam from breakers or even Fiat dealers?

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wagoneer

[dp]

Parts are getting harder and more expensive but still available. You have to balance between the Fiat going in a bit more easily but probably needing a rebuild vs a newer engine which may be more difficult or expensive to get in but cheaper to buy and cheaper and easier to find parts for.

JLH's old pricelist shows bulkhead notching for a K series at £900ish. Depending on the price of his more extreme cutting for the Zetec, if you do the install yourself the cheaper price of the new engine alone could cover the extra cost of modifying over and above what's necessary for the Fiat.

E.g. a brand new Zetec seems to be about £900 here:
http://www.greatbritishsportscars.com/news.php

A rebuilt standard Fiat T/C will cost about £3000.



Useful threads here:
http://www.morrisminoroc.co.uk/index.ph ... ic&t=18172
http://www.morrisminoroc.co.uk/index.ph ... ic&t=10557

Useful websites:
http://www.turbo124.com/
http://www.guy-croft.com/

[Wagoneer]

Thanks for the links DP.
The engine is already installed, I'm just getting the car back on the road so the work is relatively easy!

[twincamman]

Try these places:-
www.international-auto.com
www.baylessfiat.com
www.vickauto.com

[dp]

Are there any particular parts you are after Wagoneer?

Oh as you have the engine, some parts can be phased out E.g. you can weld a trigger wheel on the back of the crank pulley and run Ford EDIS and Megasquirt/Megajolt instead of the stock distributer and points (but leave dizzy in place or oil pump will come apart).

Weber DGV carb off a Ford Pinto engine can be used instead of (I forget the model) Weber twin choke downdraught.

Megasquirt instead of the engine module if you have F.I. especially if you are going to modify.

I think someone does a Fiat to Ford type 9 gearbox conversion though you shouldn't ever need as the Fiat 131 5 speed is pretty tough.

Links are very useful thanks Twincamman

[Wagoneer]

Thanks for the links,
I think I've found what I want close to home. I just need to measure and send a photo of the damaged one I have to see if the replacement is right. Then I as reminded that we have an agent in Italy at work! I forgot........

dp, ignition mods sound good, I'll keep your info filed away for later. I fitted the sump back on today and should get it turning over in a day or two hopefully. I'm fiddling with it during lunch time at work, figuring I'd get 5 hours a week work done, which is more than I'd get done at home between looking after the kids, decorating or whatever else Mrs Wagoneer has planned;)

[twincamman]

Are you sure about the dizzy/oil pump?
Some of the twincams have the dizzy up on the cam cover, driven by the exhaust cam.
This is due to either the car coming with twin downdraughts or aircon, either way the dizzy's in the way.

[dp]

Oh oops you're quite right. I think if the dizzy picks up off the cam then there is a dummy shaft that holds the oil pump in place but I could be wrong as I've never seen the oil filter area of that type of T/C.

I also think there's a means of blanking off the cam dizzy.

I'll dig out the Guy Croft book and see what I can find.

FWIW I plan to leave the original dizzy in place with fresh set points but no leads so if the electronic spark stuff fails I can still keep going.

[twincamman]

I'll have a look in my workshop manual when I get up (on my way to bed following night shift).

[twincamman]

Just checked the Haynes book, and dp you're right. There's a dummy shaft on the aircon models.