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stub axle and bearings
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:00 pm
by poppet
Hi
I have a '63 traveller with many modifications.
This includes marina front stub axles and callipers. On the passenger side there is a recurring problem which appears to be the bearings slackening off repeatedly after only a few miles.
Does any one have any ideas? Had it happen to them?
Thanks
Steve
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:12 pm
by jonathon
Only heard of this with the old OB Minor stub axle and a modified Marina Hub, not the full Marina set up. I don't mean to question your knowledge here but are you sure that they are Marina stub axles.
If so then they should run standard bearings , so I'd suggest that the bearings might be incorrect.

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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:45 pm
by poppet
Hi Jonathan
Thanks for the reply.
I'm only guessing that the stub axles are Marina since I have fitted new Marina discs and callipers
Steve
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:59 pm
by bigginger
In which case they may well not be. The kit I used had special hubs but usual Minor stub axles - if memory serves

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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:44 pm
by jonathon
If I remember correctly the bearings were from a Peugeot which were a close metric version of the original Marina . The n/s/f was always a problem ,largely due to it being in the gutter of the road. Bumping up kerbs,pot holes etc hastened the already poor fit.
The stub axle is slightly modified with a bearing spacer required to take up the discrepancy in Minor -Marina bearing sizes.
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:51 pm
by bigginger
Thank you, oh fount of knowledge

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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:15 pm
by jonathon
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:12 pm
by poppet
Thanks for the reply - really helpful.
Can you tell me whether the spacer was fitted on the oil seal side? I've already put an extra washer behind the castle nut.
Steve
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:13 pm
by jonathon
The spacer was an interference fit ( supposed to be) being cynical,sorry.
on the original boss on the stub axle,so yes its on the oil seal side.
Does your stub axle have just the end thread then a smooth finished shank moving into a taper. if it does then its a Minor one, if it has broached splines between the thread and shank then its a Marina one. The Minor version might well require a spacer but make sure it is the correct diameter for the bearing.
Hope this makes sense

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:11 am
by poppet
Thanks Jonathan
this is proving to be really helpful.
I now know I have a Minor stub axle!
Steve
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:05 am
by jonathon
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:04 pm
by Mogwai
I have exactly the same problem with my bearings one side always has play in it. I think the problem is with the stub axle being worn it is a recon one & it looks like its been shotblasted which has reduced its diameter slightly alowing the inner race of the outer bearing to move slightly on the shaft
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:18 pm
by jonathon
Might well be but there has been an issue(fault) to most folk with the n/s bearings for years now and it still has not been addressed. Unfortunately this is the way with many other components from the same source. Scandalous in my opinion

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:03 pm
by poppet
Hi
just to let you know;
the car in question passed it's MOT today
Its only fault being an overslack wheel bearing. This was rectified by having a specially made spacer to take up the slack and stop the hub rubbing against the back plate.
Thank you for all your help in this matter
Steve
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:18 pm
by bmcecosse
Hmm - not sure I like the sound of that! Keep a close eye on it. It may only be a very temporary 'fix' .
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:34 pm
by poppet
you were right bmcecosse;
it's at fault again
Have you any advice please?
Steve
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:38 pm
by Mogwai
probably best to get a new bearing kit. the ones on this link have the necessary spacers etc for the minor/marina setup
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/ind ... be63eca7fd
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:50 pm
by jonathon
Trouble is they will go again, as its an inherent design fault,especially on the n/s.
