Morris Minor Owners Club

Thought that would get your attention

OK so the thing is I currently have in my shed a set of Drums,backplates and shoes(springs etc) for the wolsley 9" set up.

Now what I don't have is a set of working pistons....

But....

I do know that some of you clever people have used the standard Minor set of pistons and adapted the backplates with a welding set and drill.

As a set of 9" pistons are at least £100 for 4 and I have a nearly new set of minor pistons already the answer seems fairly easy.

I had a quick look today and to my eyes it appears all I have to do is

1)weld up the hole that is in line with the slot.

2) Extend the slot to the length needed for the Minor pistons.

3) redrill the hole for the end of the piston.

4) Fit all the normal gubbins back in and off we go


So the questions I have are:

A) This seems too easy what have I missed

B)Anyone here done this? if so did you have any Problems?

C) What else used wolsely 9" shoes? so when I go to my motor factors I can give them more options to search up in the catalogue (or any links would be useful)

Cheers

That's exactly all there is to it Paul -it's dead easy! I'm not even sure it's necessary to weld up -but since I had the welding gear anyway -I did so. I haven't found an alternative to the Wolseley shoes so far - let me know if you find something that can be adapted.

You are correct-i have been running wolseley drums with minor cylinders for nearyl 10 years now with no problems

I still havent managed to find a set of wolseley brakes

IIRC MG TF shoes are the same. Possibly as difficult to pick up. There was also another one that was about 1/4" wider and needed 1/8" grinding off each side, but I can't, for the minute, remember what they were from. BMC may remember.

Thanks to Alec on here who tells me his Triumph 2000 rear shoes are 1.75" wide x 9" diameter - same as my TR7 in fact. So - the search goes on for 1.5" wide shoes although grinding a bit off Triumph shoes may still be an option.

These people may be able to tell you if the brakes were fitted to different cars and what availability is like.
http://www.powertrackbrakes.co.uk/parts.html
A friend with a 64 Morris campervan found them very helpful.

Daft question perhaps... but is there not a relining service for shoes available any more?

Orkney wrote:Daft question perhaps... but is there not a relining service for shoes available any more?

Yes, several companies will sell you relined shoes on an exchange basis. I bought my Riley 1.5 and Wolseley 1500 shoes from Earlpart. The prices about a year ago were:

Riley front shoes (exchange): £19.95 for the set.
Wolseley front shoes (exchange): £21.95 for the set.
Delivery was included in the quote. They have a £14 surcharge on the exchange shoes.

You can see what they look like compared to the standard shoes in the pictures in this thread: http://www.morrisminoroc.co.uk/index.ph ... ic&t=14713

Incidentally I might finally get around to fitting the Riley brakes next weekend!

Yes its still done as there is no other option for some of the rarer cars thats why a spare set of shoes can be a blessing.

Kevin wrote:Yes its still done as there is no other option for some of the rarer cars thats why a spare set of shoes can be a blessing.

The way it works is you pay a surcharge when you order the replacement shoes, they send you a relined set, you swap them over, you send your old ones back, then (eventually, after some chasing) they refund the surcharge.

Ah right, i did wonder what with older stuff & asbestos etc, the overheads for anyone to touch such a thing and remain withing the H&S must be staggering.

Thought you already had larger brakes on Fenchurch Alex - hence explaining the speed you go

Those Riley look the bees knees !!! Presume they will push the wheels out as the drums thicker?

Orkney wrote:Ah right, i did wonder what with older stuff & asbestos etc, the overheads for anyone to touch such a thing and remain withing the H&S must be staggering.

Yes, they're surprisingly cheap actually when you consider what must be involved in relining them.

Thought you already had larger brakes on Fenchurch Alex - hence explaining the speed you go

Nope. Surprisingly I haven't yet managed to fade the original drums, but I do always make good use of engine braking when descending steep hills.

Those Riley look the bees knees !!! Presume they will push the wheels out as the drums thicker?

No, the extra depth seems to be taken up in the backplate. The hubs aren't any different.

The way it works is you pay a surcharge when you order the replacement shoes, they send you a relined set, you swap them over, you send your old ones back,

Agreed but with my mates 64 campervan he had to send the originals as they didn't have any to do an exchange with

http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~sandy/wo ... /1500.html

If this link works its one Peetee found for me.

BTW can I still use my new standard short link brake pipes and new flexi's or will I have to find bigger/longer ones?

Want me to bring my EBC motorfactor book which has diagrams of all the shoes they made to the next SADMOG?

paulk wrote:http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~sandy/wo ... /1500.html

He's not as cheap as Earlpart, plus when I phoned he sounded quite grumpy when I mentioned I wanted to fit them on a Minor.

BTW can I still use my new standard short link brake pipes and new flexi's or will I have to find bigger/longer ones?

The flexis look like they should reach OK. I'm not certain about the link pipes.

Cheers alex.

Yes please Matt I'll bring a shoe to look at

bring a ruler/vernier too