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Painter Decorators anyone know the going rate ?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:24 am
by Orkney
Quick question - as per title, anyone know what they charge hourly?
Know someone with a holiday cottage needs the walls & ceiling emuslsioned.
Ceiling needs at least sugar soaping to remove soot from chimney smeach, might even need sealing or doing with an all cover paint.
Anyhow, curious if anyone knows roughly the hourly rate or whatever, as getting people to go price it wont be easy here with the building boom.
Let alone getting somone to do it when its vacant between bookings, near impossible probably.
So considering doing it myself for the owner a bit cheaper & turn my time into mog bits :-). Just dont have a clue whatsoever as to what people are charging nowadays?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:42 am
by chickenjohn
anything less than £100 a day will seem a bargain!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:36 am
by paulhumphries
chickenjohn wrote:anything less than £100 a day will seem a bargain!
My father in law had someone in recently.
They were recommended by Age Concern as being on their "approved" tradesmens list.
To decorate one room (papered and then painted on top, ceiling painted, all woodwork glossed etc) cost over £600 including materials.
Chap did a good job and took 5 days so I'd say £100 a day is about right.

Paul Humphries

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:12 am
by Judge
I asked a tradesman recently,(just as a matter of interest, as I do all my own Kevin :wink: :lol: ) and he said around £1000 for a room.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:28 am
by Orkney
Well thanks guys, youve all confirmed how out of touch i am with the world in general :roll:

Ive done a lot of painting professionally for a lot of years in the past, guess ive forgotten the going rate for such things in the real world.
(trust me when youve painted numerous multi-storey car parks your enjoyment of applying emulsion diminishes)

The owner of the cottage lives south, and whilst i daresay the cost isn't his problem its actually getting someone to do it properly at a set time to coincide between gaps in the bookings as getting any trade pinned down to do a job here is a nightmare.

I'll gladly do it for less than the going rate as i have no overheads or time constraints, but if i'd mentioned what i had in mind befor asking the question in this thread I'd have been drastically underselling myself to the point of looking rediculous.

Shall go look at it tomorrow once the people there this week leave and carefully ponder it.
In teh meantime its off to the garage, pen & paper and start a shopping list for scabby's tidy up :o
Price up the bits with Bull Motif and that will = the price for job & finish :D
and he said around £1000 for a room
if it wasnt for the tan Bill it would have been £750 - the guy probably thought 'well he can afford to go sunning himself, ergo he's loaded si i'll jack up the price'
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:53 pm
by MoggyTech
£18 to £30 per hour plus materials depending on the size of the company doind the work.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:28 pm
by dunketh
£1000 a room? :o :o
I'm in the wrong job! :lol:

I painted one of my ceilings over the weekend, its a horrible job, especially when artex'd.

Ifs its walls and ceiling all in white you could cover the floor with dust sheets and fire up one of those HVLP sprayers.
Have it done in a jiffy. :lol:

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:44 pm
by MoggyTech
5 Gallon drum of whitewash and a stick of dynamite in the can. Oh hang on, Mythbusters tried that and it didn't work, yet Mr Bean got decent results.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:56 am
by Judge
Orkney wrote: if it wasnt for the tan Bill it would have been £750 - the guy probably thought 'well he can afford to go sunning himself, ergo he's loaded si i'll jack up the price'
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Ah, is that what it was :lol: :lol:

If I had known you were planning to do the job I would have said around £150 for a room, including materials :evil: :wink:

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:06 am
by Kevin
the guy probably thought 'well he can afford to go sunning himself,
No we are all that shade down here its down to a thing called sunlight 8)

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:37 am
by Orkney
Ah yes Kevin but there is a colour chart for that skin tone - and Bill's right there between David Dickinson & Des O'Connor :-)

Do miss the hot sun a bit, but then rather that than be too hot in the summers down there.

Anyway the painting, Unbelieveably sent a mail to the owner, as i sent it one arrived from him saying he's got someone going to price the job :-? Alas the events of the last month have meant i never got round to dealing with it in time so reckon i've lost out there.
Still that's not to say he might not get a nasty surprise when he gets a price back going by whats been said here, so if that happens and he comes back to me to save some money then all well and good, at last i'll be prepared and know not to sell myself short :roll:

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:19 am
by Kevin
between David Dickinson & Des O'Connor :)
Ah an Orange tinge then.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:43 pm
by Furrtiv
Just to add a bit of a random tangent here, as this is a decorating thread; I want to paint my radiators to look either pale antique gold or bronze, does anyone know of any suitable paint for this? Someone suggested car spray paints, but I want to know if they will withstand the heat (we have our radiators on a maximum of 25C in the coldest depths of winter). It's not worth taking them off the walls and taking them somewhere to be powder-coated or done professionally, as it's only a rented house, but I have plans for the living room and a soft, metallic gold or bronze finish on the radiators will blend in with the proposed new decor splendidly.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:33 pm
by Axolotl
a maximum of 25C
that's the room temperature. The water in the radiators should be approaching 80-82 degrees C when the boiler is going flat out trying to get the room to 25 degrees.

You used to see special "radiator paint", but my latest redecorator used standard gloss paint. He assured me there'd be no problem with that, and there hasn't been. No smell, no discolouration (2 years now).

Whether that goes for metallic paint, I don't know.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:44 pm
by Furrtiv
Cheers, I will have to look into it further then.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:42 pm
by Axolotl
More on this. It seems the problem on domestic radiators ins't the heat, it's the surface wear.

The special radiator paints you get give a very hard, flexible enamel like finish.

The consensus seems to be that you can use any paint nowadays, it is just some won't be hard enough if the radiator gets any wear from furniture or passing people.

Plasti-Kote do some metallic aerosol spray paints, some of which are specific for radiators.

International do a clear lacquer for spraying over emulsion paint on radiators to give a hard heat-tolerant finish. Maybe you could avoid metallic and get a colour-match emulsion that was the right sort of shade?

A quick Google search on radiator paints UK threw this up and a lot more.

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:04 pm
by Furrtiv