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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:36 pm
by grainger
why dont you have a look on charles wares website, hes got exploded pics of all parts on a minor, you can even buy a catalogue off him for a fiver with all the pictures in

ps im not sure which panel the flitch is wether its the triangular one inside above the wheel arch, generally covered with a card panel or if its the one outside thats behind the wing ?? dont worry someone will soon clear that up - but i know 'the a post' is the one with the hinges on that the door hangs off , the 'b post' is the one with the doorlatch on that the door closes against

cheers
grainger

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:03 pm
by Kevin
The C post which only applies to the 4 Door is where the rear door closes onto
The Flitch panel is the one that the front wing bolts around as you look under the front wing sometimes called the inner wing
As for the Doobery Wotsit (is that not a type of crisp) take Graingers advice have a look at
http://www.morrisminor.org.uk/
You dont have to buy his book as most of the specialist will send you a free catalogue showing most parts free of charge when you buy some spares.
As for the Dr`s FANKS & FIK I can find no mention in any Minor publication although the second one does sound familiar

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:54 am
by lowedb
I hope I don't upset anyone, but I'd disagree about the C post. As it was explained to me, on a four door it's where the rear door is hinged, the other side of the B post. These are therefore usually known as the BC post. where it's one post that does both jobs.

The rear door closes on to the D post. The one in the back corner behind the rear quarterlight (on a car that has them) is the E post.

The various catalogues available are good for identifying the panels too, but I found I couldn't really relate to the drawings until I started to take the car to bits , and find that all the bits listed as spares had rusted away! (funny that).

What I could do with is something that tells me the best order for replacing the bits, for example the inner and outer sills, floor edges, boxing plate and so on. Anyone reccomend a good book?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:41 am
by Cam
How strange! I have not heard of D and E posts (unless you have a stretched limo!).

I was always told that the rear door closes on to the C post, and all my car nut and mechanic friends refer to it as a C post.

I mean, they (we) might be wrong (like in the case of rockers being called tappets) and the term has just stuck.

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:07 pm
by Kevin
Final answer
`A` post front door hinges on :D
`B` post rear door hinges or front door shuts :D
`C` post rear door shuts :D
there are no `D` or `E` posts on a Minor Saloon :cry:
What is confusing is that on the catalogue page for upper body panels on the Charles Ware site and other sites the parts are shown as
part 14 `B` post
part 15 `B` post repair
part 16 `C` post repair
but the drawing which is a BMC original has the part shown in front of the `B` post repair as though that is its position when in fact it should be the other side of parts 8 & 9 as it attaches to the lower rear post and arch / door shut area
The person who told you it was the B/C post has missled you as a single part does not have 2 part names its either an `B` post or a `C` post not both, otherwise you could have on a saloon, roof `A` where the front windscreen is located and roof `B` where the rear windscreen is attached
If you have any doubts just ring any of the specialist and they can explain further

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:47 pm
by Kevin
I think bodywork will remain a black art to me...
To a lot of owners is called `RUST ART` :cry:

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:01 pm
by lowedb
Well a body Engineer at work called it the B/C post in a meeting this morning.

It might be different bits of the car industry have different names, or it might have changed over time.

Not being a bodywork specialist I couldn't say but the two companies I've worked for always have A (front door hinge) B/C (front door close/ rear door hinge) and then D D/E or D and E depending on the design of the car, so my reply was based on my experiences.

However, searching the Internet everything I find confirms the other method of labelling (ie C is where rear door closes).

How curious!

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 2:05 pm
by Kevin
There are lots of examples of mis-naming in engineering circles as Cam says Rockers being called Tappets, a couple of others Crosshead Screwdriver we all call them Phillips screwdrivers and Hexagonal Keys that we know as Allen Keys & best of the lot Vacuum cleaner called the Hoover, although all of these came about through manufacture dominance at the time rather than mis-calling

Mis - naming

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 2:45 pm
by 57traveller
And another - cylinder head. The removable bit, we all call it a cylinder head is in fact the cylinder cover. The cylinder head is the top face of the cylinder block. :-?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:51 pm
by lowedb
Having got home, and been curious, I looked in the official workshop manual for the last car I had.

Another version:

A = front door hinge.
B= front door close and rear door hinge.
And the door closes onto.....

D at the bottom, D/E at the top!
and that's on the four and five door versions.
There are pictures to prove I'm not losing my marbles, too.

So where did C go?

I can't disagree that people do confuse names, like calling rockers tappets. But I'd expect the people who design cars to know what their bits are called, and they've let me down again!

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:05 pm
by Cam
Yes, the rockers being referered to as tappets and the cylinder head misnaming are actually correct when you are working with a sidevalve, as you DO adjust the tappets (not rockers) and the cylinder head is actually the top of the cylinders (and engine!). I know this has absolutely nothing to do with the A,B,C,D,E......etc post, but LONG LIVE THE SIDEVALVE!!!! (sorry! :wink:).