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Hello - Newbie axle question

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:22 am
by Spag
Hi all, new to this Morris Minor malarkey, but not to a little automotive tinkering...

I have recently acquired a 1965 4door, that is in need of a fair bit of work, which will undoubtedly involve adding a few more horses under the bonnet.

What are the options of MOWOG based axles that will take a bit more torque ?

For obtuse reasons, I would like to avoid just sticking an Escort axle in, so was wondering if maybe MGB would work ??

Any thoughts or comments appreciated!

Cheers

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:15 am
by Kevin
What are the options of MOWOG based axles that will take a bit more torque ?
Generally the Marina/Ital one is used, not sure if I have seen a MGB one used, there are now some halfshafts available that are far stronger than the originals made from EN24 steel.

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:15 am
by Spag
Ooo, some EN shafts into a Quaife ATB could be quite sexy and resilient :D may cost a few $$$ though !

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:51 am
by plastic_orange
Minor diffs are a bit fragile too (even with standard engine), so if it were me, I'd use a Ford. However an MGB axle is pretty strong, and if you have one use it. Obviously you will need to check width, and do the usual mods to make it fit.

Pete

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:42 pm
by Matt
Marina axles as already stated are pretty strong as well

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:01 pm
by MoggyTech
Depends how much BHP increase you are talking about. If you go daft the gearbox will need changing as well.

For moderate BHP increase, hardened half shafts are available from ESM for £70 the pair, the EN24 ones are £350+ from tuning specialists.

The only weak point in the moggy diff is the cross pin and standard half shafts.

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:54 pm
by Spag
Hee hee! Would be looking for a reasonably noticeable increase :wink:

Engine and box are destined for replacement with something else, though still have some measuring and thinking to do on that front.

I have only played with FWD and mid engine things in our home projects so far so the RWD is all a bit of an adventure...


Please don't kick me out, but I have a 4AGE and a couple of V8s kicking about spare from our Minis :D

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:19 pm
by bmcecosse
Advantage of Marina axle (saloon - not van) is the 3.75" pcd on the hubs - which will match nicely with Marina front hubs and discs - and then you can use inexpensive MGF alloy 15" or 16" wheels all round. With MGB axle - you would have fun matching front hubs to the MGB 4.5" pcd.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:02 am
by Spag
Cheers for the comments.

Looks like the Escort has quite a lot going for it, and with it's rally background the availability of uprated innards makes it look even better.

Did I spot somewhere a front disky conversion to Ford PCD as well? The availability of stealth ford steel wheels could be another bonus of heading in this direction !

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:24 am
by alex_holden
Spag wrote:Did I spot somewhere a front disky conversion to Ford PCD as well? The availability of stealth ford steel wheels could be another bonus of heading in this direction !
I think JLH does one. Send a PM to jonathon for more information.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:17 am
by twincamman
The MGB axle is 1" narrower than the Minor one, and the Salisbury ones ('67-on) are pretty tough. They'll take pretty much anything that a 4-banger will chuck at them.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:10 am
by Matt
If you can find a marina commercial they have 4.5" PCD, the same as the MGB

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:12 pm
by downsey
guys have run ford 302's in their mgbs with the stock rear end with absolutely no problems.

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:09 pm
by morrisman1
in the ute i have a toyota corolla/starlet rear end. its got a 4.5" pcd, but so do my marina hubs on the front. i got them off a marina 575 van. the starlet unit will be a bit stronger than the morry one (in the half shafts particually) but i mainly got it for the higher ratio. diffs with higher ratios than 4.55:1 are damn near impossible to get here.