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Headlights

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:44 pm
by Sidney'61
Hi and happy new year,
I'm planning to make the indicators on my '61 minor slightly less obvious so what I am planning to do (and i've seen it done before) is wire up the indicators into where the sidelights should be and hopefully have the sidelights wired into the main headlight unit, but theres one problem... is it easy to wire the sidelights into the headlight unit or is there anywhere I can by them like that?

Thanks

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:48 pm
by alex_holden
You can use a halogen headlamp kit with integrated pilot light:
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/pro ... ts_id=1801

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:58 pm
by Sidney'61
Wow a reply within 5 minutes!
thanks Alex

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:04 pm
by DAVIDMCCULLOUGH
You can use a stop/tail lamp and have a white flasher like the ones fitted in 1962 & 1963. All you need is 2 deep fitting bulb holders and the headlights can be left as is!! I bought a complete lamp, rubber body, chrome ring and white glass new off ebay for £9.00 post included.

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:11 pm
by Matt
Just so you know... mini's use that setup with the sidelight being a pilot light even on sealed beams and it shines through a "window"

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:43 pm
by Sidney'61
Ok, thanks guys, I'll consider the possibilities
Matt wrote:Just so you know... mini's use that setup with the sidelight being a pilot light even on sealed beams and it shines through a "window"
Yes I thought about using mini lights but I think all the minis used 5" headlight units whereas the minor ones are 7"

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:52 pm
by Alec
Hello Andy,

no, the Mini lights are also 7".

Alec

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:06 pm
by Sidney'61
Ah ok, my mistake, thanks Alec

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:21 pm
by bmcecosse
In fact any headlights you buy these days will have the little 'sidelight' window in them.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:59 pm
by shemat
Will the halogen headlight conversion with sidelights fit in the standard buckets or do they need changing too?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:15 pm
by bmcecosse
They fit the buckets ok - however the little sidelight is sometimes very close to the metal edge of the inner shell - and this can lead to shorts. Best to bend the edge away - and put a wee wrap of tape round the sidelight bulb holder.

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:09 am
by RogerRust
You can get orange bulbs to go in the side light holders . I changed mine for the slightly later type with the bigger window on the front and got orange bulbs off ebay.
At the back I fitted indicators under the bumper and fold them up out of sight when I go to shows!
Roger

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:57 am
by 8009STEVE
At the back I fitted indicators under the bumper and fold them up out of sight when I go to shows!
Sneeky!

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:35 pm
by Sidney'61
RogerRust wrote:You can get orange bulbs to go in the side light holders . I changed mine for the slightly later type with the bigger window on the front and got orange bulbs off ebay.
At the back I fitted indicators under the bumper and fold them up out of sight when I go to shows!
Roger
Some very good ideas there Roger, I don't think I'll be doing this work for a while so I might come and inspect your car at the next rally and copy if you don't mind

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:39 am
by RogerRust
Pop down at the weekend if you like I'm only 25 minutes away!
Pm if you want my address.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:43 am
by RogerRust
here is a LINK to another thread

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:49 am
by Peetee
The sidelight to indicator conversion is what I did but it's not as straightforward as I first thought. I had to change the mount bases to two pole to match the bulbs - then found the retaining pins on the orange bulbs were asymetric not parallel and had to find orange bulbs to suit (halfords 'bling' rang of bulbs of all things!). Still the end result is worth it. :D

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:20 pm
by bmcecosse
Orange side lights are of course not legal in UK! Or - are you using these as indicators Roger ??

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:36 pm
by RogerRust
Orange for indicators.

Side lights in the headlights.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:26 pm
by bmcecosse
Good - dunno why Morris didn't do that anyway - because 1959 Mini had sidelights in the headlights, so the 'technology' was well known!