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front wheel bearings

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:55 pm
by aupickup
i have replaced the kingpin, with a new old stock one, new trunnions and new bearings in the hub, yes they are the right way round,

did the same with the other leg

torqued up the bearing nut to 55 on one side no problem, wheel spins round nice no tightness
did the other side, and i can not get the nut torqed up to the same,

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:58 pm
by MoggyTech
Is the side that refuses to torque up seizing the bearing rotation? If so suspect bearing spacer.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:08 pm
by aupickup
hi yes it is, but this is the 2nd hub i have tried, but that does sound a feasible cause

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:18 pm
by MoggyTech
It's also not unknown to get a faulty new wheel bearing out of the box. Usually side play between inner and outer race cages. Balance bearing on three fingers placed though centre and spin the bearing. Any hint of sticking, it's goosed.

After that it's a micrometer and vernier caliper and measure everything both sides...Bearing width and spacer length. Check spacer for burrs where it contact the bearings.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:21 pm
by aupickup
thanks for the info, but also this was another complete bearing set

bearings

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:56 pm
by Willie
torqued to 55 is over specification. I cannot find my reference at the moment but memory says 40 is the correct figure. Not that lowering the figure would make much difference. Found it 'front hub nut 35-40
lb ft'.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:47 pm
by aupickup
haynes manual says between 55 and 65 lb torque

torque

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:38 am
by Willie
Well, the workshop manual says '35-40 lbs ft. i know which one I would
believe!

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:04 pm
by aupickup
thank you willie, will redo the wekend

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:55 pm
by bmcecosse
Looks like you will need to increase the width of the spacer (with shims - or use thicker spacer) until it tightens up without jamming. I can't see that the stub axle could have any effect on this - but you could do a quick trial assembly of the new parts on one of the old stub axles - to see if it tightens up there ok without gripping the hub.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:03 pm
by les
I had the same problem with front bearings, the make was rollstar or something, bought from esm. I fitted some s/hand hubs complete with good bearings in the end. Fitted the original hubs ( with the tight bearings) to some other uprights recently, and now they seem ok, not sure why/how!

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:23 pm
by aupickup
the same bearing was worse from the same source

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:35 pm
by les
Hit and miss nowadays, what happened to good ol' ransome and marple bearings.