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brakes questions

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:58 am
by ferny
I've got to replace all the rubbery bits in the brakes but I'm not sure without sticking my head under the car what's fully needed with regards to flexible lines. I've just tried to phone a dealer so I can find out and place an order but they weren't answering. So how many and what types do I need (parts numbers would be helpful)?

What are people experiences of rebuilding the master and slave cylinders? I'm tempted to replace all the slaves and refurb the master as I don't know their true condition and it's not my money I'm spending. That always makes a difference.

:)



edit - I meant to put this in the 'Technical - Other' forum but put it here by mistake. That'll teach me for having two windows open... Sorry.

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:13 am
by aupickup
well u have 2 front flexi hose, one to each front cylinder and one flex at the rear

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:12 pm
by Kevin
PM sent

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:16 pm
by ferny
Thank you to both of you. I wasn't sure if it was just the three. Until you start fiddling with different cars you don't realise (or I don't) how much they differ. I'm used to four flexible hoses, one for each wheel.

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:35 pm
by bmcecosse
Most rear axle cars only have a single hose there - on the minor it is a unique hose with different threads at each end!! Go to Bull Motif website http://www.morrisminorspares.net/ (there are others) - and you can see all the parts there. Best to phone an order in though - I have found 'web' orders take much longer on delivery.

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:44 pm
by kennatt
one of the main problems of rebuilding a master cylinder is that the bore will be rusted beyond where the piston has been travelling ,due to moisture in the fluid,when you come to pump the pedal to bleed the system the new rubber seal travels over this rusted area and damages the lip and very soon you are back to where you started,Even if you hone the bore to try to get rid of this rough area,you are still running the risk of a premature failure.Also you need to get the mastercylinder out of the car to do it so you may as well fit a new unit.The only time I would rebuild is if I was certain of the condition of the old unit.One way as suggested in other threads it to use an easy bleed therefore no need to pump the pedal.Wheel cylinders can be rebuilt but are cheap (Well the front ones are) so may as well renew, What price good brakes :-?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:58 pm
by dunketh
For slave cylinders, just replace them!
This'll have the added bonus that you'll have nice, clean threads for the new flexi hoses to screw into.
All the Minor parts sellers will flog you the correct brake parts. Wheel (slave) cylinders should also be obtainable from local merchants as they're not rare items.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:26 pm
by ferny
It's been decided to get new ones. Thanks for the help. :)

On the bad side, it does look like it's blown a gasket. Bubbles in the water and water out of the spark plugs when it's running. :o
I'm going to get it warm and see if it need to be torqued down first.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:23 pm
by bmcecosse
Water out the spark plugs is VERY worrying - take the head off and check before any serious damage is done to the engine.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:28 pm
by MoggyTech
And do an oil change once you have fixed the problem.