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Exploded Fiew

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:37 am
by markattard
Could anyone please post an exploded view of the 1098 gearbox, thanks

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:53 am
by bmcecosse
From the MOSS site - it's Spridget box but essentially the same.
http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewP ... ndexID=953

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:28 am
by kennatt

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:37 pm
by markattard
Thanks!

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:13 pm
by markattard
Could someone pl post a link to some info about gearbox dismantling and assembly, thanks

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:17 pm
by alainmoran
Image

:)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:42 pm
by kennatt
fell off my chair laughing at that one alain :D :D :D

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:12 am
by alainmoran
Hehe .. couldnt resist .. sorry :)

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:23 am
by markattard
Welcome to the MMOC forum.... where Minor enthusiasts promote their favourite book brands.... :oops:

... following the recommended reading I think I can call myself a gbox expert !!! thanks :o

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:47 pm
by bmcecosse
It's straight forward enough - just try not to lose any of the little balls and springs!! Work over a tray - to catch any small bits that fall out!
Very best gearbox explanation is in Metro Haynes (£1 at Scout sale!) ) - although not all is relevant to Minor gearbox because it's a different selector arrangement - the general idea is the same.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:50 pm
by MoggyTech
alainmoran wrote:Image

:)
Thing is with that book, is the 1st motion shaft removal explanation is completely wrong for later gearboxes. You will wreck the front casing trying to drive the shaft out.

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:48 am
by markattard
Thing is with that book, is the 1st motion shaft removal explanation is completely wrong for later gearboxes. You will wreck the front casing trying to drive the shaft out.
and that is not funny..... :o

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:58 pm
by bmcecosse
If I can find my Haynes I will have a look later - but don't remember anything wrong with method. Why do you think it's wrong MT ?

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:42 pm
by AndrewSkinner
Does anyone have an exploded view of the Dampers used in the morris minor (Lever type) and can you simply replace the seals in them? Mine seem to throw out all the oil I put in them :lol:

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:41 pm
by bmcecosse
I have tried and failed in the past to get the arms off the dampers. There must be a way - but I don't know what it is. Exchange dampers are not expensive.

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:12 pm
by MoggyTech
bmcecosse wrote:If I can find my Haynes I will have a look later - but don't remember anything wrong with method. Why do you think it's wrong MT ?
On Page 96 Para 15, Haynes say to place a rod in from the rear of the box (where the 3rd motion shaft came from) and drift the first motion shaft into the bellhousing. On the ribbed casing 1098 gearbox I worked on, the gear and syncro cone are milled as part of the first motion shaft, and there is simply not enough clearance for these parts to fit through the front casing. You simply tap the 1st motion shaft INTO the gearbox.

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:33 pm
by bmcecosse
Hmm - can't remember how it was done now -but I do think inwards was the method I used (many years ago now) - but then I didn't have a Haynes to mislead me - I just followed my nose.
Mini lads call it HBOL - Haynes Book of Lies.

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:39 pm
by MoggyTech
bmcecosse wrote:Hmm - can't remember how it was done now -but I do think inwards was the method I used (many years ago now) - but then I didn't have a Haynes to mislead me - I just followed my nose.
Mini lads call it HBOL - Haynes Book of Lies.
Yes indeed, if I had a pound for every mistake in my many Haynes Manuals I'd be a rich man. Sentences like "Retain Small Spring" ="Jees what was that, it nearly had my eye out". :D

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:43 pm
by bigginger
bmcecosse wrote: Mini lads call it HBOL - Haynes Book of Lies.
Maybe they copied that from here then - it's been called that for donkeys years :D

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:55 pm
by MoggyTech
Haynes Manuals The True Technical Meanings Of Common Phrases

Manual: This nut is done up to a tight torque
Meaning: You will never shift that nut, even with a 2 metre extension bar

Manual: Fitting the ball detent plungers can be fiddly
Meaning: Get ready to search the garage floor for the parts that went ballistic

Manual: Get the dealer to check this part as special equipment is needed
Meaning: We couldn't figure out how or why it works, let alone take it to bits.

Manual: Use release oil to free up seized nuts and bolts
Meaning: Manufacturer famous for producing rust buckets

Manual: Have a fire extinguisher at the ready
Meaning: This job is really dangerous, we blew up the test vehicle

Manual: Refitting is the reverse sequence to removal.
Meaning: But you swear in different places.

Manual: Retain tiny spring...
Meaning: "Jeez what was that, it nearly had my eye out"!

Manual: If part wont come off, tap it gently with a plastic faced hammer
Meaning: Beat the hell out of it with the biggest mallet you can find

Manual: Safety is critical here...
Meaning: We got it wrong, and the car is now an insurance write off.

Manual: The dealers use a special tool, but you can make your own as shown
Meaning: We at Haynes have a sick sense of humour.

Manual: Make sure spanner is a good fit, as the nut will easily round off
Meaning: We used Molegrips and made an %$"£$ of it

Manual: Access is difficult
Meaning: Your hands will be bleeding shortly after reading this

Manual: With the aid of an assistant...
Meaning: Be prepaired to have a friend laugh at your antics.

Manual: This part is delicate
Meaning: We broke three before getting one to fit, so buy four