Spin on filter doesn't fit !!

Post by **speedbox** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:09 pm

I have just bought a new spin on oil filter conversion and i think i am either missing something or my new oil filter kit is . The problem is the mating surface of the new oil filter housing where it bolts onto the engine is a completely different profile to the original oil filter housing. Consequently when bolted to the engine there is a gap above the whole thing and had i not noticed it before starting the engine would have dumped the oil all over the floor.Is there some sort of adaptor required or will i have to make up some sort of plate/gasket bodge to gert round it or have i completely missed something here ? Im not overly excited about bodging it and have bought this kit with a view to saving a bit of time on servicing as i have another minor added to the collection of a 68 traveller and 68 van and he is a 3 week old minor called Charlie who is very keen on supplying me with rags in the garage in the form of my shirts which he is partial to being sick down ! Very handy for mopping up oil in case of the above ! I can't find any links with this problem so reckon i must be doing something daft ( usually the case ! ) but can't think i am the only one who has had this problem, the kit was purchased from a Moggie specialist for a 1098 engine car , does this mean i have a non original engine although i have tried it on the van engine and the it's the same on that too, i will be glad of some help on this one Darren

Post by **wibble_puppy** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:16 pm

can you post any pics of the offending parts, Darren?

Post by **bigginger** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:17 pm

Huh? They usually don't match the block, but they do cover the hole. Are you sure it would have "dumped the oil all over the floor"?

Post by **Judge** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:21 pm

With the Flexolite conversion there is no need to touch the housing, not that this helps you now unfortunately

Post by **speedbox** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:22 pm

Most definately there was a visible gap above the gasket area and a black hole into the crankcase.

Post by **bigginger** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:25 pm

Fair enough - I was just going to go and take a pic of one in situ on an unmounted engine, but I guess that won't help now

Post by **speedbox** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:28 pm

Thanks anyway Andrew never mind at least it gave me a chance to have a butchers at your website , looks good i shall look at it in more detail when i get a spare minute , nice to see someone with an LCV that's almost as knackered as mine is, no offence !

Post by **rayofleamington** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:45 pm

Have you removed the gasket from the block? I've seen people get this problem thinking that the raised face of the block was cast iron and that the housing didn't match (I've even seen one car where they hand made an apaptor plate!!). The raised area will be the old gasket.

If you down to the block face, it will be flat (and if so, ignore this tip!). If not then remove the extra bit of gasket and then you might get it to seal.

If you've already done that, then either your block or your housing is not 'normal'.
All the conversion kits that I've seen use a housing from other A-series applications which looks a very poor fit on the Minor block but overlaps the sealing face enough to work without an adaptor plate.

Post by **bigginger** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:51 pm

speedbox wrote:nice to see someone with an LCV that's almost as knackered as mine is, no offence !

Five of them...

but thanks

Post by **speedbox** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:55 pm

No luck there either its most definately a big hole with no gasket material in sight you could poke a screwdriver down there if you were inclined. Im not well known for my good luck but to have two engines with the same problem would be a farce !

Post by **Welung666** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:08 pm

Can you get a photo of the offending item? I'll happily host it if you don't know how.

Post by **Judge** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:09 pm

rayofleamington wrote:All the conversion kits that I've seen use a housing from other A-series applications

Except the Flexolite kit

Post by **speedbox** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:17 pm

I have a photo available i can e-mail as an attachment if that is any use ? Thanks Darren

Post by **Welung666** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:18 pm

Email it over Darren and I'll post it up

Post by **Welung666** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:31 pm

Post by **bmcecosse** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:35 pm

Ask the supplier of the kit!! There are some differences over the years (long studs/long bolts/short bolts) - but i would have thought the kit would be designed to fit all.

Post by **speedbox** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:36 pm

Nice work , thanks for that one , i will just sit back and wait for all you moggie experts to see what you think , cheers Darren

Post by **speedbox** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:48 pm

ive just looked on the invoice to make sure the correct item has been sent/ordered and everything is fine there and ironically it states in the advert for the conversion in brackets "the only one that fits " ! Just my luck to prove that wrong , i reckon both my engine blocks must have been a friday afternoon job !

Post by **bmcecosse** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:51 pm

Should fit ok - what engine is it - 948/1098/1275 ?

Post by **speedbox** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:55 pm

As far as im aware it's a bog standard 1098 , both of them are , the 68 van and 68 traveller with no modifications other than an extra large hole in the block , apparently !!