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front wheel arches - must be a solution!
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:05 pm
by wibble_puppy
hi guys
ok it seems to me that the design of the front wings of Minors is a bit pants, as it allows the front wheel to kick up loads of mud etc and deposit it in the V-shaped gully at the back of the wheel arch. Leading to rust every time
Apart from using fibreglass wings (too late), mud flaps (in the pipeline) and lashings of Dynax S50......
There must be a solution! some sort of extra guard thing one can fit to block off that V-shaped gully at the back.
Anyone?
wibble
PS I can't machine steel lol
wings
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:13 pm
by Willie
There are plastic wheel arch liners available for the Minors as per most modern cars but i don't know how much they cover. Front mud flaps are a bonus on our cars as they prevent the muck and spray being thrown back along the entire sill bottom area( that is why the jacking points rust so quickly).
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:33 pm
by dunketh
One of my wings rotted where you mention so I cut it all out and repaired it with figreglass.
Before putting it back on the car I went around the joins and seams with seam sealer.
After this I brushed/poured lots of hammerite under body seal in there. I also took the other wing off, cleaned out the crud and painted this one with the same gloop.
I don't see any reason why you cant take them off, clean them up and make a fibreglass liner, directly fixed/glued to the wing.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:20 pm
by wibble_puppy
mmmm they have been painted and sealed in situ so I need to have an after-market fix really!

thanks very much anyway, dunketh!

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:31 pm
by picky
cleaning it fairly regularly will help alot, if there is alot of mud built up there and then you drive through a puddle then park the car, moisture will be stuck against the wing for hours/days before it dries out. if there is no much there, then the water will run off the paint and the water will be gone much sooner, giving it less time to corrode the car.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:03 pm
by JimK
What about these? (Page is in English)
http://www.lokari.de/en/produktbeschreibung.php
They look like you can remove them to check and clean behind them.
Here's the page for BMC cars:
http://www.lokari.de/en/test.php3?selec ... ion=search
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:28 pm
by Welung666
€130 per pair

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:23 pm
by paulhumphries
I'm going to try and adapt someting like a plastic trailer mudguard.
It won't seal anything in nor will actually touch the body / wing other than "stand off" attachment points.
The idea is to reduce spray & muck thrown up yet still allow any that does get though to easilly drain.
Paul Humphires
Re: front wheel arches - must be a solution!
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:40 pm
by uax6
wibble_puppy wrote:hi guys
ok it seems to me that the design of the front wings of Minors is a bit pants, as it allows the front wheel to kick up loads of mud etc and deposit it in the V-shaped gully at the back of the wheel arch. Leading to rust every time
Apart from using fibreglass wings (too late), mud flaps (in the pipeline) and lashings of Dynax S50......
There must be a solution! some sort of extra guard thing one can fit to block off that V-shaped gully at the back.
Anyone?
wibble
PS I can't machine steel lol
Ok Wibble_Puppy do what i've done on my van. I 'inherited' a length of convayer belt, which I cut to go to up to about 3/4 of the hieght of the arch at the rear. This is screwed (was pop-riveted) on to the edge of the wing (fibreglass in this case) and to the inner part of the arch. Works really well, had them on for 7 years and they certainly stop the majority of the road crap going into the corner.
see photo on this site (second on on the national page is my van!)
http://web.mac.com/felix.schoenberg/iWe ... 02007.html They don't show up very well but you can just about make the front one out.
I'll be doing the same on all my minors when i get them on the road again!
Andy G[/img]
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:02 pm
by wibble_puppy
cheers for that, andy! can't make out your cunning strips on the pic but i shall up-end myself under your van next time i see you

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:14 pm
by uax6
If I can have you email address I'll send you another piccy (the pm system isn't working at the minute!!!)
Or can I load on onto here from my hard drive?
Andy G
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:22 pm
by wibble_puppy
nah you have to upload them to somewhere like photobucket and then link to the pic.
I'll PM you my email addy - cheers for that

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:26 pm
by wibble_puppy
hmmm i am getting a major error message when i try to PM you.... will try again later

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:36 pm
by uax6
I have been told that XYN will be appearing in the next edition of Minor Monthly (So said Jon!). So you should all be able to see my flaps!
Can someone let me know when it's out so I can try and find a copy?
Andy G
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:05 am
by wibble_puppy
uax6 wrote: I have been told that XYN will be appearing in the next edition of Minor Monthly (So said Jon!). So you should all be able to see my flaps!
Ewwww I have just had breakfast
I don't get Minor Monthly, poo.
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:26 pm
by dp
Haven't tried but thought that something like a plastic bin or water butt from a diy store might yield some suitably curved bits of tough plastic.
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:30 pm
by wibble_puppy
good thinking dp

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:23 pm
by IaininTenbury
As far as I recall, one of the traders was marketing a piece of stainless steel sheet and a sealant strip cut to shape to screw on to the inner part of the front wing. This would stop spry going into the crevice, but allow it to breathe and drain. MGBs have a very similar arrangement, though factory fitted of course. Think the trader might be Minor Developments, but not 100% sure.