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Sidevalve head torque setting

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:25 pm
by WPR678B
Does anyone know what this is supposed to be as all the manuals i've looked in today don't seem to list it unless i'm missing something somewhere! :oops: :lol:

Re: Sidevalve head torque setting

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:31 pm
by svantemann
WPR678B wrote:Does anyone know what this is supposed to be as all the manuals i've looked in today don't seem to list it unless i'm missing something somewhere! :oops: :lol:
Taken from the workshopmanual:
" The cylinder headstuds should be tightened half a turn at a time, in the sequence shown in the illustration Fig. A.25, until they are all quite tight "

There is no torque setting in the workshopmanual.

Hope this helps
Svantemann

Re: Sidevalve head torque setting

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:55 pm
by Welung666
svantemann wrote:until they are all quite tight
That must be an original imperial measurement :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:13 pm
by bigginger
It's one tenth of &%$*+@£$ tight :D

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:58 pm
by Onne
if it snaps it is too tight I guess... I can't remember what my sidevalve is torqued to sadly.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:52 pm
by WPR678B
Thanks for all your answers. I thought i had missed something somewhere, but obviously not! :lol: I have torqued it to 40lb/ft as per the a-series as i couldn't find any info in the manuals :o . Time will tell if its too much or too little! Thanks again :D

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:30 am
by Johnno
Mine is torqued to 40 ft lb with no ill effect so far.All the best.

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:28 pm
by WPR678B
Thats re-assuring to know! :D Thank you. :wink:

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:28 pm
by wimor
I have found in the workshop Manuel.
Cylinder head stud nuts 40 lb. ft (5,5 kg m)

The correct order of tightening the stud nuts is:

13 8 6 10

5 3 1 2 4

11 7 9 12

After tightening run the engine until it is properly warmed up, then tightens the cylinder head nuts again in the proper sequence.

I hope this help.

Greetings
Wimor

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:57 pm
by WPR678B
That is a great help. Once i have warmed it up i will re-tighten as above. Thank you Wimor :D

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:53 pm
by svantemann
wimor wrote:I have found in the workshop Manuel.
Cylinder head stud nuts 40 lb. ft (5,5 kg m)

The correct order of tightening the stud nuts is:

13 8 6 10

5 3 1 2 4

11 7 9 12

After tightening run the engine until it is properly warmed up, then tightens the cylinder head nuts again in the proper sequence.

I hope this help.

Greetings
Wimor
Hi Wimor

Can you tell which workshopmanual you have found this torque in ??
I have 6 or 7 workshopmanuals for the sidevalve engine, and the all say: "Tighten until they are all quite tight "
I know the 40 lb ft / 5.5 kg.m is for the OHV engine.

Regards
Svantemann

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:13 pm
by mike.perry
Click on Technical Info. All the settings are in there.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:18 pm
by wimor
Hi Svantemann,

Sorry I made a mistake. The manual edition is AKD 530 (14th edition).
The general data page of the manual does not makes a significant difference between USHM 2 and APHM engines. My appologies for the incorrect information.

The order of tighting etc. is correct.

If necesarry I can send you a digital copy of the manual. Please give me your e-mail address.

Greetings,

Wimor

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:41 am
by svantemann
wimor wrote:Hi Svantemann,

Sorry I made a mistake. The manual edition is AKD 530 (14th edition).
The general data page of the manual does not makes a significant difference between USHM 2 and APHM engines. My appologies for the incorrect information.

The order of tighting etc. is correct.

If necesarry I can send you a digital copy of the manual. Please give me your e-mail address.

Greetings,

Wimor
Hi Wimor

Maybee you have a manual I dont know about - I have seen some manuals in Australia which is not seen here in Europe.
Today I hope to meet some Morris cars from Holland to a Rally in Denmark :D

Regards
Svantemann



To Mike Perry:

Where do you find the Technical info ???
All I can find is Technial tips, but no info about tightening cylinderhead studs on sidevalve engine here.

Regards
Svantemann

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:52 pm
by WPR678B
I have a copy of the Australian manual that is only for the Series MM and there is no reference in there about cylinder head torque settings at all. :roll:

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:47 pm
by mike.perry
Technical Info is the car on the left of the title screen.
Click on it and all your problems will be solved - well some of them anyway.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:41 pm
by WPR678B
Svantemann. Try using this link to get where you need to be! :wink: :D

http://seriesmm.mmoc.org.uk/tech.htm#torque

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:55 pm
by mike.perry
Technical info is the btoom left car on the title page. Click on it and all your problems will be solved, well some of them anyway.

torque again

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:26 am
by Johnno
Just had a look at a Scientific Magazines manual and the setting for series mm sidevalve engine head bolts is given as 43 3/4 lbs.ft.Odd or what?Now this is an Australian publication so could this be the reason for the 3/4s.All the best,John.

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:27 am
by JJinOZ
Johnno is right for the Aussie Scientific Workshop Manual .
I have a dedicated MM manual circa 1950 published by Scientific Magazines Publishing Company, Rockdale NSW This shows Cylinder head torque setting as 525 inch/pounds for the 10mm x 1.5 pitch stud.
These manuals come up on aussie ebay from time to time keep a look out.