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Sidevalve head torque setting
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:25 pm
by WPR678B
Does anyone know what this is supposed to be as all the manuals i've looked in today don't seem to list it unless i'm missing something somewhere!

Re: Sidevalve head torque setting
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:31 pm
by svantemann
WPR678B wrote:Does anyone know what this is supposed to be as all the manuals i've looked in today don't seem to list it unless i'm missing something somewhere!

Taken from the workshopmanual:
" The cylinder headstuds should be tightened half a turn at a time, in the sequence shown in the illustration Fig. A.25, until they are all quite tight "
There is no torque setting in the workshopmanual.
Hope this helps
Svantemann
Re: Sidevalve head torque setting
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:55 pm
by Welung666
svantemann wrote:until they are all quite tight
That must be an original imperial measurement

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:13 pm
by bigginger
It's one tenth of &%$*+@£$ tight

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:58 pm
by Onne
if it snaps it is too tight I guess... I can't remember what my sidevalve is torqued to sadly.
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:52 pm
by WPR678B
Thanks for all your answers. I thought i had missed something somewhere, but obviously not!

I have torqued it to 40lb/ft as per the a-series as i couldn't find any info in the manuals

. Time will tell if its too much or too little! Thanks again

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:30 am
by Johnno
Mine is torqued to 40 ft lb with no ill effect so far.All the best.
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:28 pm
by WPR678B
Thats re-assuring to know!

Thank you.

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:28 pm
by wimor
I have found in the workshop Manuel.
Cylinder head stud nuts 40 lb. ft (5,5 kg m)
The correct order of tightening the stud nuts is:
13 8 6 10
5 3 1 2 4
11 7 9 12
After tightening run the engine until it is properly warmed up, then tightens the cylinder head nuts again in the proper sequence.
I hope this help.
Greetings
Wimor
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:57 pm
by WPR678B
That is a great help. Once i have warmed it up i will re-tighten as above. Thank you Wimor

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:53 pm
by svantemann
wimor wrote:I have found in the workshop Manuel.
Cylinder head stud nuts 40 lb. ft (5,5 kg m)
The correct order of tightening the stud nuts is:
13 8 6 10
5 3 1 2 4
11 7 9 12
After tightening run the engine until it is properly warmed up, then tightens the cylinder head nuts again in the proper sequence.
I hope this help.
Greetings
Wimor
Hi Wimor
Can you tell which workshopmanual you have found this torque in ??
I have 6 or 7 workshopmanuals for the sidevalve engine, and the all say: "Tighten until they are all quite tight "
I know the 40 lb ft / 5.5 kg.m is for the OHV engine.
Regards
Svantemann
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:13 pm
by mike.perry
Click on Technical Info. All the settings are in there.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:18 pm
by wimor
Hi Svantemann,
Sorry I made a mistake. The manual edition is AKD 530 (14th edition).
The general data page of the manual does not makes a significant difference between USHM 2 and APHM engines. My appologies for the incorrect information.
The order of tighting etc. is correct.
If necesarry I can send you a digital copy of the manual. Please give me your e-mail address.
Greetings,
Wimor
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:41 am
by svantemann
wimor wrote:Hi Svantemann,
Sorry I made a mistake. The manual edition is AKD 530 (14th edition).
The general data page of the manual does not makes a significant difference between USHM 2 and APHM engines. My appologies for the incorrect information.
The order of tighting etc. is correct.
If necesarry I can send you a digital copy of the manual. Please give me your e-mail address.
Greetings,
Wimor
Hi Wimor
Maybee you have a manual I dont know about - I have seen some manuals in Australia which is not seen here in Europe.
Today I hope to meet some Morris cars from Holland to a Rally in Denmark
Regards
Svantemann
To Mike Perry:
Where do you find the Technical info ???
All I can find is Technial tips, but no info about tightening cylinderhead studs on sidevalve engine here.
Regards
Svantemann
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:52 pm
by WPR678B
I have a copy of the Australian manual that is only for the Series MM and there is no reference in there about cylinder head torque settings at all.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:47 pm
by mike.perry
Technical Info is the car on the left of the title screen.
Click on it and all your problems will be solved - well some of them anyway.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:41 pm
by WPR678B
Svantemann. Try using this link to get where you need to be!
http://seriesmm.mmoc.org.uk/tech.htm#torque
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:55 pm
by mike.perry
Technical info is the btoom left car on the title page. Click on it and all your problems will be solved, well some of them anyway.
torque again
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:26 am
by Johnno
Just had a look at a Scientific Magazines manual and the setting for series mm sidevalve engine head bolts is given as 43 3/4 lbs.ft.Odd or what?Now this is an Australian publication so could this be the reason for the 3/4s.All the best,John.
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:27 am
by JJinOZ
Johnno is right for the Aussie Scientific Workshop Manual .
I have a dedicated MM manual circa 1950 published by Scientific Magazines Publishing Company, Rockdale NSW This shows Cylinder head torque setting as 525 inch/pounds for the 10mm x 1.5 pitch stud.
These manuals come up on aussie ebay from time to time keep a look out.