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OLIVE OYL

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:16 pm
by sloopjohnrb
Hi, I've been a Moggie owner for a few years now and recently I was told that I was using an oil that was too thin.

Please would you advise me as to what the best oil is for my Gladys, a April 1962 4 door, 948 cc petrol,
engine number 9M-U-H596318.

She has had an unleaded conversion done.
There's a lot of conflicting advice so I1m trying to find a general consensus.
Best wishes
JOHN

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:23 pm
by alex_holden
20W50, as it says in the workshop manual.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:27 pm
by bigginger
Seconded. Should help with oil leakage as well :D

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:02 pm
by Kevin
There's a lot of conflicting advice so 1m trying to find a general consensus.
As Alex said 20w50, I have not seen anything else quoted for a standard Moggie Engine, where is the other advice coming from ?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:14 pm
by sloopjohnrb
Many thanks indeed.
The advice was to use "gearbox oil" (?) instead of 20w50, this from a firm on the web.

Best wishes

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:26 pm
by bigginger
If by 'gearbox oil', they meant EP 90, then it's absolute rubbish. The Minor g'box needs the same 20/50 as the engine - at least for the later cars, since I know nothing of the early ones :(.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:55 am
by ColinP
At the risk of re-starting a long discussion :wink: I'm using 15W/40.

If the engine & gearbox are in reasonable condition (i.e. no leaks), it seems to be suitable - I think Cam did a comparison of 20W/50 & 15W/40.

Certainly, I wouldn't use anything thinner (or synthetic).

I'd recommend using an oil with an API rating of "SJ" or better, though cheaper oils are available.

Colin

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:18 am
by Kevin
If the engine & gearbox are in reasonable condition (i.e. no leaks),
Thats just showing off Colin no leaks indeed :wink:

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:19 am
by bmcecosse
Can you point us to the 'firm on the web' with this advice to use 'gearbox oil' in the engine ?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:37 pm
by ColinP
Kevin
Thats just showing off Colin no leaks indeed
I was talking about the car - :oops:

I did find that a new copper washer om the sump plug (and cleaning all the grot off the threads) helps a lot.
The engine is only 6000 miles old - it shouldn't leak - ok there's the odd drop, but ...

Cheers,

Colin

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:08 pm
by Gareth
Originally, the advice was to use SAE30 engine oil - now sold as Lawnmower oil. However, it's single-grade, and 20w50 multigrade has been used as the standard replacement since its introduction.

As has been said before the gearbox on all Minors bar the MMs takes 20w50 engine oil. :)

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:06 pm
by jojax64
When I was very new to all matters Moggie related, I went trawling my local suppliers for SAE30 engine oil and all I got were a few funny (if not strange) looks from counter staff. A friendly guy at my local Carparts 4U advised 20/50 oil and sold me Castrol Classic which was £17.50 per gallon. :o
A few nice chaps on here suggested Castrol GTX which just happened to be on a stall at a local boot sale and I bought it for the princely sum of £1.50. :D :D
Since my early endeavours, I've come across a few decent looking 20/50 multigrades in places like Halfords and B&Q which is priced aound £7-£8.
For the time being I'm happy with my GTX, which I put in last week and I'll look for more in future. Oh, and just let me add....last year I bought/fitted the spin-off oil filter kit, and it's been a dawdle (and reassuringly simple :D ) to change the filter with no springs or washers to worry about. 8) 8)

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:48 pm
by bmcecosse
You better hope that GTX tin was really filled with Castrol GTX oil!! Was the seal good, not broken ??

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:29 pm
by jojax64
Absolutely...wouldn't have touched it otherwise. :o

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:23 pm
by bmcecosse
Well done - good buy then! £17:50 is FAR too much to pay for oil for a Minor - Asda/Morrisons 20W50 is fine!

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:15 pm
by jojax64
I think it was the green retro style Castrol Classic tin that did it....looks so good I've kept it in the garage. :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:00 pm
by rayofleamington
a few decent looking 20/50 multigrades in places like Halfords and B&Q
Halfords 20/50 has no ratings - therefore is technically no better than the recycled muck from supermarkets. If you want a decent oil, you need to look for the ratings.
I've taken to buying 20/50 online (can get SJ rated for a fair price) - £17.50 is a bad joke!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:09 pm
by Pyoor_Kate
Or try a small local car-parts place (not that there's that many of them left); they quite often have bizzaro brands of oil which *are* API rated, and are often nice and cheap.

I used to love my Granville oil, they did a nice 20W50, and a semi-synth 2-smoke for my MZ. Can't get either round here...

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:43 pm
by RussLCV
Have to say I just use the good old Duckhams 20/50..............coz I like the colour! only joking!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:36 pm
by jojax64
Haven't see Duckham's 20/50 in years.... :roll: :roll:
The Missus once bought me some crappy 20/50 (in blue 1 litre bottles) from a "pound shop". I have to admit to using it to top up now and again, but I've instructed her not to bother buying it in future....I should have trained her better, I know! :D :D