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Brake pedal sticking

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:22 am
by mr-woo
Hi Guys,

Im writing this on behalf of my neighbour who owns a moggy.

He's finding the brake pedal won't return to its usual place after being pressed.

He's tried removing the small inspection plate below the pedal and spraying the shaft with various types of penetrating oil but to no avail.

I've done a site search for similar problems and see that a brake pedal return spring is mentioned.
Would this have any relevance?

He said the Haynes manual doesn't mention one.

Any help appreciated before it heads of to the garage!
Thanks

Phil

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:45 am
by alex_holden
Yes, there should be a return spring in there that pulls the brake pedal back up when you take your foot off it.

The symptom of a seized shaft bush is that the clutch pedal goes down too when you press the brake, and when you press them down together the clutch doesn't come back up when you release it.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:11 pm
by bmcecosse
And it then wears away the clutch release carbon bearing ! Vigorous spraying and wiggling should free it - if the spring has broken off or is missing then it needs to be replaced.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:46 pm
by steve4063
and they are also a real pain to put back on the last one i did took me nearly half an hour and some real mumbling under my breath :cry:

unless someone can come up with an easy way of doing it :lol:

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:50 pm
by DaveC
I made a hook out of a small cheap chinese flat bladed screwdriver, located the spring in the chassis and pulled it back to locate with that.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:39 pm
by bmcecosse
"cheap chinese screwdriver " - careful - Mr Woo that started this thread!!

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:39 pm
by aupickup
the trick is to knik it first do it is flat, and then put that end in the chassis leg, and then on the brake pedal and then on the shaft, the spring will go straight agin
well thats how i do it and it works every time and never had a problem, a 5 min job :D

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:44 pm
by mr-woo
Thanks for the replies.

I shall pass on the info and tell him to get spring hunting and see if that
will fix it :D

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:13 pm
by alex_holden
aupickup wrote:knik it first do it is flat
Que? :o

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:17 pm
by bigginger
Kink it first so it is flat, I'd say.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:26 pm
by aupickup
yes on the same wavelength, its easier to put the spring in side ways on with it flat to the chassis leg first
honest it goes in first time

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:37 am
by mr-woo
Just one more thing, where does he get the spring?

Moggy shop or cut one to size? (except he doesn't have the old one to compare to)

From the replies I see it fits on the chassis. Will it be quite clear where it fits when he's underneath?

Thanks

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:49 am
by alex_holden
You can buy them from the Minor spares suppliers, eg. ESM.

There should be a hook welded to the bottom of the inside of the chassis leg further forward than the pedal shaft. You get to it by removing the floor panel inside the car.

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:16 pm
by Roni
I had some chassis repair done in this area and when I got the car back the brakes felt different. On looking there was no hook welded to the bottom or spring. They had got around that problem by not refitting the spring. I made up a long hook that would go over the tube inside the chassis that the eyebolt goes through and went from that to the pedal with the spring. It works well and was very easy to fit. I would show a photo but I only took a "before" photo and forgot the "after" one.