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Marina engines... interchangability
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:57 pm
by Matt
So 1.3 Marina engines seem to be somewhat lacking in avaliability at the moment. Will a gearbox from a 1.3 bolt on to one of the larger engines?
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:05 pm
by Packedup
Assuming this is to drop one in a Minor, why would you want to?
The B series is heavy (so will really need suspension work too) and not that powerful, the O series (Ital) isn't greatly better, and by the time you've found an Ital O or Marina B you might as well find a Montego/ Maestro 2l O (pref EFi) and stick the Rover 5 speed box on the back of it.
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 7:31 am
by bmcecosse
Rover 5 speed box and 2 litre engine from TR 7 could be fitted - and they seem to sell for peanuts on ebay! If you are lucky enough to live near one for collection.
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:13 pm
by bigginger
But, to get back to the actual question, I doubt that the 'boxes are interchangable, but don't know for sure. Somebody must know though...
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 2:13 pm
by Packedup
Well the 1.3 uses the "Triumph" box, doesn't it? Which, in a Triumph also handles the 1850, so might well have been used for the Marina 1800 (I'm not all that up on Marinas, could be cause of the mysterious lack of them...).
I still reckon it's about as dynamically sensible to drop a B in as to stick a Maxi engine in a Mini - It can and has been done, but it's a dafter idea than Gredo shooting first (obscure reference ;) ) IMO
Going TR7 2l or Dolomite 1850 however might be an interesting project. For a list of engine weights (a bit UScentric but has some common UK lumps) see
http://www.team.net/sol/tech/engine.html
Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:48 pm
by LukeBoorman
I think the 1.8s and 1.3s had the same gearbox casings etc, just the bigger engined one is supposed to be stronger and has slightly different ratios.
I'm using a marina 1.8 / Ital 1.7 gbox on my 1.3 marina engine. Although I'm using the 1.3 bellhousing, you might need the B series Bellhousing (probably different). So it should all fit backwards?!?
The only differences between the two gearboxes was the larger splines on the input shaft (same length and fitted the spigot bearing), so i just got a 1.8 clutch plate (same diameter as 1.3) and it all works....
Now going for cross-flow with 5 speed tho.... So in a few months (all going well) my engine will be available....
Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:29 pm
by bmcecosse
The triumph engine is crossflow - and overhead cam ! But the standard Minor gearbox will NOT fit anything other than A series engines. Be they 803 up to 1380 !!
Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:52 pm
by Packedup
bmcecosse wrote:The triumph engine is crossflow - and overhead cam !
The 1300/1500 engines aren't, and I'm sure they use the "Marina/ Triumph" box.
I reckon a Triumph slant 4 might not be all that bad in a Minor (slanty studs and slightly fragile cooling aside). Though they're still not light which would mean extra cost doing soething to the suspension (and brakes!).
Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:42 am
by bmcecosse
Aye - well I was referring to the TR7 /Dolly engine which I had suggested earlier. Having just bought a TR7 - and following the parts on ebay - complete units with Rover 5 speed box can be bought for £20 or so!!