I was wondering if the Wire rims on a mid 70's MG midget fit a 1960 Morris Traveler from the UK? I have the complete differential, axles, rims, brakes, and wire rims.
WOULD WIRE RIMS OFF A MID 70'3 MG MIDGET FIT A 1960 TRAVLER?
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WOODY_IN_BUFFALO_NY
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WOULD WIRE RIMS OFF A MID 70'3 MG MIDGET FIT A 1960 TRAVLER?
Hi,
I was wondering if the Wire rims on a mid 70's MG midget fit a 1960 Morris Traveler from the UK? I have the complete differential, axles, rims, brakes, and wire rims.
I was wondering if the Wire rims on a mid 70's MG midget fit a 1960 Morris Traveler from the UK? I have the complete differential, axles, rims, brakes, and wire rims.
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Matt
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The handbrake mechanism is different, and would need modification. The minor rear cylinders may fit, but im not sure, that would solve the h/brake prob.
The spridget front hub with brakes etc is a straight swap for the minor one (ie. the diameter of the stub axles are the same), but you would need to manufacture a caliper mount (I think someone here has drawings). Also with disk brakes a remote fluid resevoir should be fitted (although opinion about that is varied) and the master cylinder needs a seal removing.
A mid 70's midget will have a higher ratio diff too, so more relaxed cruising however you only have 13" wheels so they cancel each other out to a certain extent.
I believe the springs are the same distance apart, but you would have to measure that. The axle attaches to a midget in exactly the same way as it does on the traveller.
If I was going to do this conversion I would look out for some MGB wires which are 14" and fit on the spridget splines.
I cant think of anything else really...
Hope thats of some help!
The spridget front hub with brakes etc is a straight swap for the minor one (ie. the diameter of the stub axles are the same), but you would need to manufacture a caliper mount (I think someone here has drawings). Also with disk brakes a remote fluid resevoir should be fitted (although opinion about that is varied) and the master cylinder needs a seal removing.
A mid 70's midget will have a higher ratio diff too, so more relaxed cruising however you only have 13" wheels so they cancel each other out to a certain extent.
I believe the springs are the same distance apart, but you would have to measure that. The axle attaches to a midget in exactly the same way as it does on the traveller.
If I was going to do this conversion I would look out for some MGB wires which are 14" and fit on the spridget splines.
I cant think of anything else really...
Hope thats of some help!
Serial Morris Minor Owner and Old Vehicle Nutter
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Myko2
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My friend Randolph in So. Cal. has done quite a few of those conversions. Here is his email: MorrisMinor1000@aol.com
He has a lot of pics up somewhere but I do not have the link.
He has a lot of pics up somewhere but I do not have the link.
Mike
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/229/497554834_2fa282d787.jpg?v=0
59 Traveler
66 Austin Cooper S
67 Morris Cooper S
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/229/497554834_2fa282d787.jpg?v=0
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IslipMinor
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Depends if they are 'original' fit wire wheels or bolt-on adaptors to the steel wheel hubs?
The adaptors, front and rear, can be transferred to a Minor, as can the front 'original' hubs, but the Midget rear axle is much narower than a Minor and will not fit, nor will the half shafts fit a Minor rear axle, as they are unique to the wire wheel Spridget axle, which itself is even narrower than a steel wheel Spridget axle.
As Matt says the spring mounting on a leaf springed Spridget is the same as the Minor, but the axle mountings are closer together, so will not fit the Minor.
Brakes:
Rear - the Frogeye definitely, and I think all 948 Spridgets, have the same rear brakes as a Minor, the later ones were the same size but used a double piston cylinder and rod handbrake mechanism - there is no advantage over the Minor.
Front - 1970 Midget has discs, and the hubs fit straight on to a MInor, but you will need special 'J' bracket adaptors to fit the calipers. Mini Mania in the USA supply the brackets you will need - see this link:
http://www.minimania.com/web/Item/DSK10 ... Detail.cfm
or contact me and I can send you the drawing of the same thing if you have access to steel plate profiling services.
The adaptors, front and rear, can be transferred to a Minor, as can the front 'original' hubs, but the Midget rear axle is much narower than a Minor and will not fit, nor will the half shafts fit a Minor rear axle, as they are unique to the wire wheel Spridget axle, which itself is even narrower than a steel wheel Spridget axle.
As Matt says the spring mounting on a leaf springed Spridget is the same as the Minor, but the axle mountings are closer together, so will not fit the Minor.
Brakes:
Rear - the Frogeye definitely, and I think all 948 Spridgets, have the same rear brakes as a Minor, the later ones were the same size but used a double piston cylinder and rod handbrake mechanism - there is no advantage over the Minor.
Front - 1970 Midget has discs, and the hubs fit straight on to a MInor, but you will need special 'J' bracket adaptors to fit the calipers. Mini Mania in the USA supply the brackets you will need - see this link:
http://www.minimania.com/web/Item/DSK10 ... Detail.cfm
or contact me and I can send you the drawing of the same thing if you have access to steel plate profiling services.
Richard
