Morris Minor Owners Club

Hi

I need to lift brendas engine out to repair her mounts as someone tried to tow her and has torn the plates under the engine mounts, i dont have a crane. what are my options?

Im thinking about buyin a block and tackle, with it attached to a roof beam in my garage and liftting it clear of the mounts with the front pannel removed. rolling the car back and hey presto!

Is this cunnig plan plausable?

any advice would be greatly recieved.

yes it is
but the beam will be at its weakest point in the middle

do it teh way me and my boy did take teh front panle off then get two people one either side (you go carb side ) then lift a little then walk it foward it sounds easy but you need to be strong but the engines ant that heavy (spelt wrong i recon) you lift then place down on somthing solid then move a little more .what i did was use a trolly jack place under the engine once all mounting are free then raze it up so the car comes up as well untill the car stops rizing (make shore you have a good lump of wood under the engine )

Use a good strong metal pole suspended by two roof beams. If you can find a metal sleve to fit around this pole when the engine is lifted you will have the added advantage of being able to move the engine fore and aft without moving the car.

2 people can easily lift a Minor engine out, especially if the front panel is off. Do you really need to take it out, as you could just remove the mounting to repair that area.

Pete

You could always do what i did and just lift it out on your own!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mind you i struggled to stand up again once it was out and on the floor and i couldn't get it on the trolly as my back was killing me lol..

now i've got the hassle of getting it back in so if anyone has got any plans on how to make a cheap hoist please email me as i have a winch already

back to bed and if anyones good at massaging please please email me especially if your gorgeous and blonde

i have removed and replaced the engine several times using the method you describe nslocomotive, without any problems. make sure everything is disconnected first though! easy to miss something still connecting the engine to the car.

I have removed the bare engine myself - cylinder head removed. Front panel and rad removed. Trolley jack under - remove the towers and the mounts - support the gearbox from below - slide engine forward on trolley till it meets the front crossmember - heave ho onto the cross member - then heave ho again up onto the bench. However - I have since equipped myself with a ratchet hoist from Canadian Tire (1000kg pull - cost £3:50 (7$ Can) in a sale!! This is hung from my daughter's old swing frame which has had the top cross pole replaced with a longer and thicker pole - and with this arrangement I have changed a Mini engine and it will be used for Minor engine in the near future (are you reading this Barry?). Beauty of it is it comes to bits really easily and is portable !! Similar hoists are available in UK - but rather more expensive (~ £12) than my Canadian Tire bargain !

would you like to borrow mine stuff i have just got
if yes im in norfolk in watton in breakland pm me

If you want to create a bit more head room you can always release the bonnet by removing the locating pin and split pin from the bonnet support strut and gently resting the bonnet on a piece of carpet or similar on the roof.

If you have 2 very strong people available it's not much of a problem.
Once the radiator and front panel are removed it becomes much easier.

I have fitted and removed engines on my own just using a couple of jacks underneath (one for gearbox and one for engine).

First thing to know is that you can unbolt one of the front mounting towers from the engine bay floor - this allows removing the engine mounts without any hassle.

Use a piece of wood to protect the sump from the jack! The more stuff you remove from the engine (e.g. manifolds, dynamo etc..) the lighter it gets.
Pull the engine forward and it comes free of the gearbox, then jack it up a couple of inches and it will slide onto the front crossmember.
The front crossmember has a brake pipe and the wiring loom on it, so when sliding the engine forward it's best to use another piece of wood on it to protect everything.

The easiest thing I found to do was to make a stack of spare wheels in front of the car at the same height as the crossmember - then slide the engine off the crossmember onto the stack of wheels - bingo! no engine in the car.

With 2 people this is pretty easy. With one strong / foolhardy person it can be done.

Refitting is a reversal of the same procedure - but a bit more fiddly as it always takes a couple of minutes to get the gearbox shaft engaged into the clutch.

Why remove it just to repair the mounts?
Can't you just jack it up?
Undo the mounts, black of wood under the sump and jack him up a bit?
Might even get away without undoing the box depending on how little space you can actually work in.

I'm guessing it's the tie-bar front brackets that are damaged!!

When my pal used this method he bought two long foot fence posts to support the garage cross beam. He had them angled towards the middle - one each side of the car.

Iddy

I use a normal scaffold pole mounted across my garage walls with a block and tackle. The same set-up handled the very heavy MGB engine
too so will be up to the job. Just remove one engine mounting tower and the replacements become easy!

T & T tools hired me a crane for £13 for the weekend. I'm pretty tight with money but it made thinsg so much easier.

That's very cheap! HSS were about twice that

T & T tools hired me a crane for £13 for the weekend

and I managed to find an old but serviceable crane on ebay for less than three times that!

When we redid our moggie, one of the best things we found to help was the grandsons skateboard. Put the engine or engine/gearbox on it to move it around. When replacing engine/box, put the skateboard under the engine bay to take the rear of the box. Saves scraping it on the floor and dont need anybody to hold it up.

Read this one with interest, as was wondering if it all had to come out by bolting the bar onto the top, or if I could take the head off and remove it in bits!...

PS... yip BMC! ;)