Van chassis metal guage / thickness

Post by **paulhumphries** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:21 am

Anyone tell me what thickness / guage of metal was originally used to build the LCV chassis ?

Thanks.

Paul Humphries

Post by **bigginger** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:07 pm

18 gauge - 1.22mm. I thought it would be thicker too. but it ain't

Post by **paulhumphries** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:52 pm

bigginger wrote:18 gauge - 1.22mm. I thought it would be thicker too. but it ain't

That is a lot thinner than I though.
I suppose it accounts for the fact that a lot of chassis are / have suffering from rot.
I was expecting at least 14 or better still 12 gauge.

Paul Humphries

Post by **M25VAN** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:57 pm

I think the Henric chassis' were 16gauge.

Post by **paulhumphries** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:03 pm

M25VAN wrote:I think the Henric chassis' were 16gauge.

Do you know if the Henric chassis rails were pressed sections, as original, or fabricated out of flate plate ?

Paul Humphries

Post by **M25VAN** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:14 pm

From memory the straight bits at the front and middle looked like a folded U section with a plate welded on top. The curvy bits over the axle and back had a bottom welded to to sides (done very well) and flat plate on top. Fitting was very good, with no problems. They really looked very professional and If I could buy another I would.....

Post by **paulhumphries** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:22 pm

M25VAN wrote:From memory the straight bits at the front and middle looked like a folded U section with a plate welded on top. The curvy bits over the axle and back had a bottom welded to to sides (done very well) and flat plate on top. Fitting was very good, with no problems. They really looked very professional and If I could buy another I would.....

That's interesting as it fits in a little with what I've got flowing around my mind - using all the ready made repair panels available and fabricating the rest.

Anyone a link to what a Henric chassis looks like ?
I've been downloading every picture I can find on web sites of the original type chassis but I believe the Henrics was also slightly different in that it was more angular.

Paul Humphries.

Post by **aupickup** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:23 pm

this may be of some help just found it, maybe worth giving the advertiser of the sire an email and get the guy that is selling his phonr number

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C06171

Post by **M25VAN** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:36 pm

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That's interesting as it fits in a little with what I've got flowing around my mind - using all the ready made repair panels available and fabricating the rest.
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I think the bits over the rear axle and the curved tube for the front spring mounts would be difficult.

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Anyone a link to what a Henric chassis looks like ?
I've been downloading every picture I can find on web sites of the original type chassis but I believe the Henrics was also slightly different in that it was more angular.
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Pretty much like the two pics in this ebay ad...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MORRIS-6CWT-VAN-N ... dZViewItem

If you want I can try and take some pics of areas of interest but won't be until the weekend.

Post by **bigginger** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:48 pm

I have some naked chassis' here, if you want pics, it's dead easy

Post by **paulhumphries** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:53 pm

That's interesting as it fits in a little with what I've got flowing around my mind - using all the ready made repair panels available and fabricating the rest.

I think the bits over the rear axle and the curved tube for the front spring mounts would be difficult.

Actually the curved tube is easy.
I know of a local company who put the item into a copying machine and can then CNC duplicate the shape.
Main use is custom exhaust pipes but no reason why the tube on a Minor couldn't be made.
The bits over the rear axle are a litlte more difficult but again not impossible to fabricate.
I "know a man" with a CNC plasma cutter who could, in thoery, cut the flat plate to correct sizes for welding. Difficult aspect would be making a jig to hold them in place.

This is where the LMC Hadrian jigs would be wonderful or they could be persuaded to run off a limited number of new chassis to Henric spec.

Paul Humphries.

Post by **bigginger** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:57 pm

I also have a 'curved tube' I can chop out, if you're after one.

Post by **aupickup** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:02 pm

hello andrew
well got my van now see sig

any way the rear left hand side (looking from the back) the chassis has a 3" bit of rot, can you cut me off a 20 inch peice from the back if its good and the rest is bad

Post by **bigginger** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:14 pm

I think it's pretty bad - the bit immediately over the axle certainly is, top plate gone, but I'll check with tape measure in hand tomorrow. Just the rear 20 inches?

Post by **RussLCV** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:15 pm

An original after its 5th coat of paint on Saturday

One more coat to go and the the inside to be waxoyled

Post by **aupickup** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:17 pm

thanks andrew well as much as you can get would be fine
thanks again
dennis

Post by **aupickup** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:20 pm

oops its the right hand side looking from the back ( drivers side)

Post by **bigginger** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:37 pm

Ah - I hold more hope for that side

Should be fine.

Post by **bigginger** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:04 pm

It isn't. Completely gone (as in separated) around the spring hanger, sorry.

Post by **aupickup** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:54 pm

thanks for looking what about the other side, are they handed, at the worst i would only need about 4" past the hanger