Removal of rear wheel oil seals

Post by **RussLCV** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 4:15 pm

Can anyone offer me any advice for the removal of the oil seal on the rear wheel hubs.

I have the hubs out and on the bench, the bearings have been removed without too much difficulty, but the oil seals, now that is a different thing.

HOW DO YOU GET THEM OUT, mine have been pulled (chunks come off) I have had a soldering iron in there and it just seems to skim the surface

ADVICE WANTED

Thanks in advance

Russ@MinorLCVreg.co.uk

Post by **RogerRust** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 4:41 pm

If you wipe the grease out you will see that there are two gaps in the ring that the seal sits against.

Easy when you know how!! Just drift them out from there. To be honest I didn't notice till after I'd struggled to get the seal out.

Post by **RussLCV** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:34 pm

Roger

You have totally lost me, I am talking about the seal that is under the bearing not the o ring, are you refereing to the same item? If so I have no idea how you can drift it out as you have now to hit against.................or is just me?

Cheers

Post by **bmcecosse** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:38 pm

You need to drive it out from the front to the rear- or you can just destroy it at the rear and force it out that way.

Post by **RogerRust** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:12 pm

Yep if you look from the wheel stud side you will see that there is a step that the oil seal sits against. There should be two grooves machined into the step so that you can drift the oil seal out,

Perhaps this drawing will help;

Post by **RussLCV** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:47 pm

Ah......................not seen them! Will have look and photograph, my seal seems to be peeling and the rubber is stuck fast!!

Are these easier to put in than take out?

Post by **rayofleamington** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:56 pm

I didn't notice any access points to help remove it either, but i didn't know to look for them (I did one about 18 months ago).
It came out with a few harsh words and a hammer and various semi-blunt instruments.

Post by **RussLCV** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:07 pm

Hello all

Update is they are still there and appear to have ben stuck in!!

Thats what all the fuss is about, so all I have now is the remains of the seal (still not see those grooves) any ideas of how o remove or has anyone a spare with the seals removed that they can help me with?

Cheers to all, if anyone wants an image I can take some

Post by **Judge** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:20 pm

Sounds as though possibly someone has used loctite or similar. Heat?

Post by **simmitc** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:12 pm

I agree, a good blow lamp. The rubber / plastic will melt and be very hot, so be well ventilated and "just" scrape out the moulton glue like residue. When fitting the new seals make sure you use a good correct sized drift. Good luck.

Post by **RogerRust** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:14 pm

I agree, it looks like a lot of heat is needed to soften the rubber then dig them out with a chisel. Perhaps the access points on mine are a mod by a prevous owner.

Post by **les** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:08 pm

The seals are rubber coated metal, so heat is doubtful, grooves are usually cast in for seal removal as already mentioned. Maybe a small sharp coal chisel used on the side of the seal to bite in slighty and drive it down. This is risky as you don't want to score the housing.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:23 am

Destroy it from the back!!

Post by **les** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:11 pm

I think you've already suggested that as a possibility!!

Post by **RussLCV** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:12 pm

I just have remnants on vulcranised rubber left..............I guess I will need a pair of hubs.

Anyone witha spare set to sell, must have the seals removed!!

Thanks to all for the advice................can help with replacements

Post by **bmcecosse** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:47 pm

No - there will be a steel rim under the rubber. Dig it out!

Post by **RussLCV** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:21 pm

bmcecosse

Great stuff......................5 mins today and out they popped!! Well what was left of them!

now any advice on putting them back in, which size socket can you use as a drift..........I have the 33mm nas the is not bigger enough, any idea on banging them back? They are going equal but are now flush with the housing.................

Thanks in Advance

Post by **rayofleamington** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:53 pm

I used a jam jar which was the only thing I could find that was the right diameter but that is SERIOUSLY not recmmended

!!

Post by **RogerRust** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:16 pm

I used the old seal........................... but in your case............................ oh never mind!!!

Post by **RussLCV** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:48 pm

Many thanks to all........................all out and new ones in!!