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marina crankshaft pulley

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:22 pm
by picky
i bought a marina crankshaft pulley on ebay, it has a rubber insert that looks knackered, is there anyone that sells just the rubber bit? im fitting it to my 1098 as i assume the rubber acts as a crank damper?

cheers,
picky

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:03 pm
by aupickup
i eleive esm sell them, but it may be the whole pulley and not just the rubber damper bit

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:00 pm
by bmcecosse
The rubber is bonded in - if it's really knackered then that's it. However - I have never seen one that's so bad it can't be used - can you put up a picture ? I 'think' the ESM pulley is solid steel - and so won't have any 'damping' effect. It will be a nice strong pulley which won't fall to bits when the rivets work loose!

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:10 pm
by picky
it is useable, but i think that if the rubber gets any worse over time then the pulley will not run true and will throw the fan belt off... ill put it on and see what happens. cant get the old one off though ...

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:21 pm
by bmcecosse
But the pulley bit should not be rubber mounted - just the outer ring. Is it the bolt (starter dog) that won't come undone - or the pulley that won't move on the crank ?

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:33 pm
by picky
managed to loosen the nut but cant remove the pulley. last time it took me ages, its difficult to use a lever behind it without squashing the timing cover. ive soaked it in WD40 shud help..

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:43 pm
by bmcecosse
Aye - two tyre levers one each side but the casing is always vulnerable. wd40 is not a release oil. You may need to heat it - and you will be fitting a new crank seal to the timing case anyway - i expect!

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:45 pm
by picky
ive always found wd40 useful for pulling things apart. only got one tyre lever so i will have to improvise.. annoying that i will probably have to take the radiator out just to get to this thing..

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:57 pm
by Kevin
ive always found wd40 useful for pulling things apart.
Yes but nowhere near as good as a proper penetrating oil.

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:23 am
by bmcecosse
Fortunately it's only a 5 minute job to pop the rad out - well worth it for the improved access - and minimising risk of damage to the rad!

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:11 pm
by picky
got the rad out and fitted the marina pulley, the belt doesnt come off anymore but it gets twisted round somehow but still stays on. I have only started the engine and had a look, have not tried driving it anywhere. How is the belt getting twisted??

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:47 pm
by bigginger
Are the pulleys aligned? If they're not, it can cause the belt to come off.

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:47 pm
by bmcecosse
Pulleys must be quite seriously out of line - usually the water pump and crank pulley will be in line ok - just need to adjust the alternator with washers. Just sometimes the water pump may need attacking with a file to move the alternator back slightly.

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:44 pm
by picky
well thats interesting because this fan belt problem only started after i fitted the alternator (had dynamo before) but the bottom pulley looke really bent anyway so i replaced it. best way of checking they are in line? i was thinking holding a metal ruler along the edge of one of the pulleys or something..

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:10 pm
by bigginger
That's just how they say to in the manual :D

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:37 pm
by picky
i must be a natural engineer :D or maybe ive read it in the manual before :o

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:54 pm
by Kevin
i was thinking holding a metal ruler along the edge of one of the pulleys or something..
i must be a natural engineer :D or maybe ive read it in the manual before :o
Psst its called a straight edge :wink:

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:09 pm
by picky
ive realized my fan belt is too long... so much for being a natural engineer :cry:

looking at the dynamo pulley it is larger than the alternator one. so that explains why the belt fitted ok before replacing the dynamo with the alternator. although the pulleys might not be on exactly the same plane, im going to get a correct length belt first and see if that solves the problem. ESM list several belts, but i assume the standard one for a 1098 will be too long?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:00 pm
by bmcecosse
825 mm if I remember correctly. And it's too cold and nasty outside for me to go and check!

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:45 pm
by Kevin
but i assume the standard one for a 1098 will be too long?
Yes just ask ESM which is the correct one for your set up.