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Seat Belts
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:27 pm
by vibrodolly
Hi everyone,
I want to fit front and possibly rear seat belts to a 1958 Minor 1000 saloon 2 door.
Any ideas or suggestions about how, who to contact, self help etc?
Thanks
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:55 am
by iddy
ESM, Bull Motif and a few other websites sell them. Around £25 - £30 each from memory. I also seem to remember them coming with fitting instructions.
Iddy
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:23 am
by BigMark
at what age were seatbelt a legal requirement on cars? My 70's moggy has them in but I would love to get rid of them in the restoration
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:59 am
by aupickup
i think that at the start of the alphabet.
ie tgu77a
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:14 pm
by paulhumphries
I think from 1965 is the date for seatbelt being a legal requirement.
What I cann't understand is anyone even considering removing them
Paul Humphries.
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:16 pm
by Furrtiv
Please don't remove them! I've been involved in a RTA and was in a moggie (which sadly died), and the only thing that prevented me from going through the windscreen was my seatbelt - and that was only at 40mph!
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:30 pm
by paulhumphries
Furrtiv wrote:Please don't remove them! I've been involved in a RTA and was in a moggie (which sadly died), and the only thing that prevented me from going through the windscreen was my seatbelt - and that was only at 40mph!
Without the seatbelt I think you would have been "skewered" by steering column, before going thought windscreen, so wouldn't have felt anything anymore anyway
Like I say - why should anyone even consider removing such a sensible, basic, safety item !
Paul Humphries.
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:54 pm
by Onne
If only they where a bit more comfortable, then I might consider putting them in my series II.
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:53 pm
by alex_holden
I don't understand the "comfort" argument - once you get used to them you don't even notice they're there 99% of the time. In fact it feels very strange to me riding in a car without a seatbelt.
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:13 pm
by bigginger
Same here. The only thing I've ever been in without them (apart from Onne's car) since I was about 10 was a 7 1/2 tonner - scared me silly
Never had any 'discomfort' whatsoever from belts
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:20 pm
by tony22
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:50 pm
by Onne
I might go for some lap belts then.
This because:
I am tall, 3 point things keep slipping off my shoulder
Series II seats have a low back anyway
I do see the point in seatbelts...
Onne
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:33 am
by stevey
Im tall aswell 6 5 and i find seatbelts are more irritating in a 2 door as its lower down on a 4 door its higher up so more comfortable.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:39 am
by Kevin
at what age were seatbelt a legal requirement on cars? My 70's moggy has them in but I would love to get rid of them in the restoration
They were a legal requirement on a car of that year and once fitted they automatically become part of the MOT.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:28 am
by minor_hickup
Lap belts can cause horrible injuries Onne. Please consider 3 point belts even if you have to modify the belts or mountings.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:59 pm
by Furrtiv
Agreed, I'm not a fan of lap belts. Seriously, wouldn't you rather suffer a small discomfort than a horrendous death or serious injury?
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:49 pm
by d_harris
I fail to comprehend why anyone wouldn't have seatbelts in their car (and wear them!!!)
They are the single biggest life-saver in all motor accidents. Without a belt a 30mph crash is likely to be fatal as you fly forwards at 30mph and find a steering column wedged into your chest (also, if you brake suddenly!)
It scares me silly if I don't have a seatbelt on! I'm a big lad and I have no problem whatsoever with the seatbelt mount on a 2 door (although my girlfriend can find it quite uncomfortable and shes quite a bit smaller than me - its weird!)
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:26 pm
by ColinP
Dan
although my girlfriend can find it quite uncomfortable and shes quite a bit smaller than me - its weird!
Erm, well my wife tells my it's a lady thing - depends exacty where the seat belt crosses your girlfriend's ..... (oh help - I can't write the "$*^% word down - the moderators will kill me)
It all depends on where the seat belt passes from her shoulder towards the side anchorage (Pm me if you want the naughty word!)
A small difference in the seat rake or front/back position may help a lot. Maybe also armourplating or changing the belt anchorage, or a bit of strategic padding for the shoulder (to lift and NO!) to lift the belt a few mm... mmm?
Have fun,
Colin
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:16 pm
by Furrtiv
I'm 5'3", and have never had a problem with the shoulder seatbelts in any car - they tend to, ah, sit between "them", if you know what I mean!
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:51 pm
by BigMark
Just to add, I am 6ft 8" tall and 22 stones and find then DAMB uncomfortable
Do understand all the comments, just considering all options ;)
