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hardner for 2K paint

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:14 pm
by KirstMin
Hi all, I went to do some touching up at the weekend with the 2K paint and hardener supplied in little tubs by the last body shop that I went to (so it matches perfectly). Trouble is I had stupidly not sealed the hardener tin and its all gone hard! I only need a thimble full but can't buy the stuff. Anyone got any spare? I can pay for tin/materials and postage :)

Kirsten

PS: please let's not re-open the cellulose/2K/water based debate again :D

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:33 pm
by Kevin
Have you tried grovelling to the bodyshop.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:21 pm
by KirstMin
unfortunately they wont supply unless I go there. And they are 200 miles away!

Re: hardner for 2K paint

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:03 pm
by nebogipfel
KirstMin wrote:
PS: please let's not re-open the cellulose/2K/water based debate again :D
You could just not read it :D

You live in London and can't find a paint factor (seller of automotive paints)??

They must be like wassaname in a field :o

Any cheap and cheerful universal activator will work in your 2K paint. Half a litre will be about £15.

It doesn't have a very long shelf life and once opened will solidify fairly quickly, however much you tighten the lid.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:44 pm
by jonathon
Kirsten,
You will be okay to just use the paint alone if its touching in stop chips and the like with a brush. The paint will cure, but obviously take a deal longer than if activated. :wink:

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:41 pm
by KirstMin
hiya both, thanks for the replies.

2 questions:

1. nebogipfel: will any activator work with my 2K paint? For sure?

2. Jonathon: yep, its for stone chips, how long will it take to cure and will it eventually cure hard enough to be able to flat it back a bit? ie: will it cure as hard as it would have done with the hardner?

cheers :D

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:56 pm
by jonathon
For tip ins any 2K hardener will do, but if you are going to spray just tell the paintstore what make of paint you have, just incase there are any issues.
The paint less hardener will dry hard and will flat back. A few hours will be enough but let it dry hard for around a week.
I'd try a bit on some scrap metal, just to convince yourself and determine a drying time.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:05 pm
by RogerRust
I use 2k less hardener for top up - no problem seems to touch dry in a couple of hours.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:55 pm
by nebogipfel
KirstMin wrote: 1. nebogipfel: will any activator work with my 2K paint? For sure?
If you are doing a proper 2K paintjob then you should always use the whole system from whatever manufacturer you choose.

- The products should give predictable consistent results

- If you have a problem, you can legitimately go back to the manufacturer for back-up.

That said, in the trade for cheap in and out jobs we often use universal activators and mix brand names without problem.

I have not yet, (touch wood) had a problem :)

Jonathon is correct, it will air dry but it is preferable to activate 2K paint for touch-ins of any size

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:15 am
by KirstMin
thanks all. I am literally doing a couple of 1-2mm areas where chips have occured so will try the sans hardner method :-)

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:44 pm
by lofty1000
Hi all, I have recently purchased some celly paint and thinners from paints4u.com, I noticed at the time they sell 2k paints and additives.

http://www.paints4u.com/productsbyCat.a ... election=1






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