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coil overs

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:21 pm
by les
I'm wondering if the standard set up can be put back if needed. I am inclined to think not, as the heavy plate that has to be welded to the chassis leg possibly covers the recess in the chassis that the original lower suspension arm moves in. Yes/no anyone?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:29 pm
by GAS
Anything can be done or undone.
I have the coil over set up on my traveller,to return this to standard would mean about two days of grinding,and a bit of patching on the inner tubbs.
All in all not an easy job...

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:35 pm
by les
Anything can be done or undone.
Also anything done by man can be done again! All that aside. perhaps I would have done better to have said can the heavy plate welded to the chassis be left there, if the standard set up was returned.

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:41 pm
by jonathon
I cannot speak for the OB kit but ours is rather a more permanant fitting, as we remove the torsion bar completely and weld in bespoke chassis brackets for the A arm and top damper mount, to add strength in the areas experiencing extra loading. You could remove most of the un necessary metal work with a cutting disc if you wanted to return the car to standard spec. But having sampled the coil-overs why would you want too. :D :D :wink:

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:09 pm
by les
Yours was the kit I had in mind Jonathan, and was referring to the angle iron plate that is welded to the chassis. In reality probably no reason to change back, but being a belt and braces type of guy I started to think of the future, and the problems of getting the kit parts seperately if/when needed. Also from what I remember the bottom arm is adjusted by threaded bolts/studs and saw this as a weak point, can't be sure of that though.
Any chance of posting some pictures, it wouldn't be like you are pushing to sell, as I'm doing the asking, and I'm sure others would like to be involved, but if you think we might be upsetting the governors, never mind!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:27 pm
by jonathon
The bottom A arm chassis bracket could have the mountings cut off it if you wanted to return to original, the thickness of the mounting plate which would be left welded to the chassis leg would be equivalent to the original washer normally fitted with the original eyebolt. The two adjusters are anything but weak. All of the welding is coded Tig welding using stainless rod, the steel is EN16T an exceptionally strong metal. One of our customers had an accident with an impact speed of over 60mph. Most of the force was aimed aty the front offside. The car was written off,bent leg, window frame and buckled bulkhead cross member floor and roof. There was no damage apart from being bent, to the A arm which stayed attatched to the chassis bracket. I'll happily e-mail you some pics, as I haven't mastered the art of putting them on this forum. You are free to use them as you wish. :D :D :wink:

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:00 pm
by les
Thanks Jonathan for the reply, would appreciate the pics!

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:25 pm
by jonathon
Do you want to email or pm me with your e- address Les. Cheers:D

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:28 pm
by bigginger
Could you e mail them here too, 'cos a) I want to see them and b) I'll post them here? I don't think that would be me "advertising on (your) behalf", more a subject of interest to others.

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:11 pm
by bigginger
Whoops - better late than never...

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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:52 pm
by Onne
Dare I say "Oh shiney" ? Looks nice.

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:08 pm
by bigginger
Nice? NICE? Anybody want to buy a kidney from me so that I can afford to get some?

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:13 pm
by jonathon
:D :D :wink:

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:17 pm
by bigginger
What, you want to re-design them so that they're OK on an LCV? Acksherley, that'd be pretty simple with a couple of towers welded to the chassis for the top mounts and a brace across the bay... Hmmm. No you can't weld the body to the chassis, sorry :wink:

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:27 pm
by jonathon
Dohhhhh ! Don't tell anyone but we have already fitted them to both a van and the lesser pick up variants :D :D :wink:

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:08 am
by bigginger
How about the greater pick-up? How did you do it, out of interest? You can't have just relied on the 4 bolts to the chassis, surely?

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:38 pm
by jonathon
Andrew the commercials were fitted with our chassis kit which strengthens up the areas where the cab is bolted to the chassis. My van had 6 bolts in the steering rack area of the chassis, two enginebay side the others fore and aft of the traingular area around the rack and pedals.
THe conversion was very successful, with no additional movement in the tub on the chassis. The critical point is that the chassis and tub are correctly aligned. :D :wink:

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:44 pm
by Kevin
the lesser pick up variants
As collected in volume by Andrew..................................

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:07 pm
by bigginger
You swine, Sir! :D :D

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:06 pm
by Kevin
You swine, Sir! :D :D
Correct as last weekend I went to a Harvist Wedding and they had a Hog Roast :P and the wedding vehicle was a Traction Engine, could only happen in the countryside :D