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rear bump stop gone

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:06 pm
by tickman
have lost my left rear bump stop :o
it was there 2 weeks ago and has decided to leave us!
i assume it is wise to get new U bolts as well as the bump stop as they might die in the removal!
any other parts i should do while i am under there, would like it not to turn into a rebuild of the rear though!

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:16 pm
by Onne
Just the U-bolts and the nuts I think. Unless you want to rebush everything.

But when you are down there, check the oil in the diff, grease the propshaft, check the oil in the dampers.

:D

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:22 pm
by tickman
what is involved in rebushing the rear, is it just the springs? do i need a press to fit the bushes or will i get away with a vice. i suppose i should check the springs and see if they are good or not the car has done 166000 miles but i do not think the rear seat has had much use, so not much weight on the rear!

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:27 pm
by paulk
All rear bushes just push in. If doing the front of the leaf spring, buy a new pin and bolts too.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:32 pm
by tickman
nothing other than the ones in the springs then!

i assume poly bushes will help with the roll as well :D

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:45 pm
by paulk
Probably not, Just last a whole lot longer and a bit stiffer.

I haven't done the back in Poly yet but find the new rubber ones I did for the MOT are nice and soft and above all quiet.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:18 pm
by bmcecosse
May as well get 2 new bump stops - if one has gone the other (unless obviously new looking) will soon follow. Dose the U bolt nuts with release oil (not wd40) - and they may come off ok - save a bit on new bolts. Poly bushes do nothing for roll - just sharpen up the rear end.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:47 pm
by tickman
bmcecosse wrote:May as well get 2 new bump stops - if one has gone the other (unless obviously new looking) will soon follow. Dose the U bolt nuts with release oil (not wd40) - and they may come off ok - save a bit on new bolts. Poly bushes do nothing for roll - just sharpen up the rear end.
any recommends for the roll apart from going slower or going in a straight line :lol:

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:28 pm
by doobry
any recommends for the roll apart from going slower or going in a straight line
stiffer front torsion bars.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:42 pm
by Stig
tickman wrote: i assume poly bushes will help with the roll as well :D
I didn't notice much difference when I fitted them, but mine's a Traveller so has stiffer springs. I did find them sooooo much easier to fit than the rubber ones though. Rather ironic that they last longer so don't need replacing so often. :)
I was advised that white grease is the stuff to use when fitting them, otherwise they creak. Got a spray can of it from Halfords.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:51 pm
by tickman
Stig28 wrote: I didn't notice much difference when I fitted them, but mine's a Traveller so has stiffer springs. I did find them sooooo much easier to fit than the rubber ones though. Rather ironic that they last longer so don't need replacing so often. :)
I was advised that white grease is the stuff to use when fitting them, otherwise they creak. Got a spray can of it from Halfords.
sounds like an easy enough job then! will look under and see the condition of the springs tonight.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:09 pm
by bmcecosse
As above - fit Traveller springs to cut down some of the roll.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:31 pm
by wanderinstar
I got my rear Polybushes from ESM and they said that you need 8 of one sort for the springs and 4 of a different type for fitting in the chassis, slightly different sizes or something. Have also fitted greased 7 leaf springs wrapped in Denso tape, dont intend doing job again for a very long time if at all. Ride and lack of roll lot better.
Ian.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:01 pm
by tickman
wanderinstar wrote: 7 leaf springs wrapped in Denso tape, dont intend doing job again for a very long time if at all. Ride and lack of roll lot better.
Ian.
so traveller springs made/make quite a differance then.

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:21 am
by bmcecosse
Some seem to find them harsh, but on my Traveller - which never has any rear passengers - they are still far too soft in my view!

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:28 am
by tickman
am always likely to have the kids with me so might be worth getting traveller springs then!
was chucking it down last night so did not get under the car to look at the state of the springs.

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:00 am
by Kevin
The couple of people I know that fitted Traveller springs regretted it as it made things too hard on a saloon, new springs will make quite a difference, and a couple of kids in the back is hardly going to strain anything.

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:19 am
by Onne
I guess they are to designed to carry mr and mrs Average and their kids anyway, and new springs do make a lot of difference