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repositioning wheelstuds, alternative wheels

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 10:59 pm
by jaapvelo
Would like to fit the brandnew set of steel volvo wheels lying in my garage to the moggy.
Tried them for size/clearance and looks, it seems to be ok
Hubs and axle are marina.
The diamatrical pitch of the volvo wheels is 100 mm

any suggestions how to reposition the studs.
alternatives?
-steel rims wich wil fit the marina hubs and my 14"185/70 tyres.
-change the dp.pattern on the wheels
-??

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 11:13 pm
by rayofleamington
185's are rather wide for the front! They need to clear the suspension uprights so they end sitting further out (which stresses the wheelbearings more).
I'm not saying it is a bad idea, but not many people have gone that big on the front, and if you end up getting special spacers made it may have been cheaper to find different rims.
Another thing is that the standard Moggy suspension isn't really sportscar stuff, so personally I wouldn't go a whole lot bigger than 165 unless also considering damper upgrades etc..


There was a nice gunmetal grey metallic traveller in Brighton on Sunday with 185's, and a few people had to have a look to see how they'd done it.
Cam may well shed more light on that as he had a look too..


Generally you modify the hub, not the wheel. There are a few companies around that will modify the hub by putting studs on the new PCD half way in between the old studs, or alternatively they make new stud holes oversize to clear out the old hole and supply a special stepped oversized stud.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 11:44 am
by Cam
The traveller that Ray mentioned had had a lot of front modification and was running cross drilled vented discs, gas adjustable shockers, and so very probably had custom front hubs.

You can get these from JLH Minors to any stud pattern you like, or he might be able to alter your original ones, but if you are still on drum brakes, then upgrade to discs while you are at it. It will cause much less of a headache than trying to modify your drums to the new stud pattern.

and unless you fancy carrying 2 spares, you will have to do the rear too.

My advice if you want to have 185s on is to go to the Ford PCD all round, then you will have the entire Ford and Peugeot range of wheels to choose from.

But it will involve a fair bit of cash to change the rear axle and front hubs / brakes.

Wheels

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 8:07 pm
by Innovator
Marina has a stud spacing of 3.75" PCD. The only other cars with this are :- Ital, Triumph Toledo, Dolomite (Dolopofshite), Herald, Vitesse, Spitfire (MY FAVOURITE CAR IS A DATSUN CHERRY), GT6 and TR7. I am unsure of the wheel sizes.

Changing stud patterns on the hub is quite easy assuming the stud pattern will actually fit. Fill the original stud hole with a piece of steel (Loctite 638 into place) and then redrill. Depending on the job it may be possible to put in a top hat / mushroom shaped piece of steel so it will not pull out.

Also check how the wheel locates on the hub. Often this is on the wheel centre and you may require a spacer on the hub middle.

I had a Toyota axle modified to Ford spacing and it worked well.

John