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hydraulic clutch

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:49 pm
by aupickup
are there any advantages to the hydraulic clutch kit?

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:02 pm
by bmcecosse
Mechanical clutch seems fine to me.

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:05 pm
by Onne
That's not the question, is it. Maybe smoother operation? I find the standard clutch to be a bit of an on-off switch

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:12 pm
by aupickup
yes i agree ther onne.

has any one on here fitted one

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:24 pm
by Onne
One other advantage, they use a different bearing, not the carbon one. Whoich again is smoother, and lasts longer

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:57 pm
by M25VAN
Yes, I had one fitted and it was nice and smooth. Changed the gearbox though and in the process the hydraulic bits never got put back. I think I was in one of my 'remove the bits that might cause trouble out on the road' moments. The ball race release did get left in though.
If you fit one you may have to fiddle getting the master cylinder to fit in the gearbox crossmember and there will be a reservoir that needs fitting on the bulkhead.
I might have the install instructions hiding somewhere if you want a copy but I agree with bmcecosse and I would stick with the original bits.....

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:59 pm
by Onne
So would I, there are enough puddles of oil under the car already!

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:00 pm
by aupickup
would be a help for the instructions.
do you use the same clutch fork , i mean the original type fork with the hole for the clutch spring and the hole for the clutch adjustment, or do i need a diferent clutch fork

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:20 pm
by bigginger
Same one in my kit (not yet fitted)

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:06 pm
by M25VAN
Sorry aupickup but I can't find my original instructions. :cry:
Maybe someone else can help. :wink:
But from memory here are the main points.....
1. Master cylinder bolts onto back of gearbox crossmember which had to be cut slightly to allow fitting.
2. I had to brace the top of my crossmember as it didn't fix to the floor so would move back under clutch operation.
3. Slave cylinder bolted onto existing holes on gearbox and actuated clutch via a shortened original release rod.
4. Same release fork used but ball race release bearing was an extra.
5. Remote resevoir fixed onto bulkhead.
6 All the above gave a nice light smooth clutch that needed no adjustement.
I would still be using it today if I wasn't so paranoid about extra bits going wrong. :o
Ball race is still fitted though and seems to go on forever (10+years) if a bit noisy.

Parts were all the same as on ESM website
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/adv ... ef&x=4&y=0
Ball race release
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/pop ... p?pID=1180

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:11 pm
by aupickup
THANKS
is the ball race release bearing necessary

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:55 am
by M25VAN
Your welcome. :) I don't think the ball race is necessary but as I was told at the time it doesn't wear down and makes for a fully self adjusting setup.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:14 am
by bmcecosse
The ball release bearing IS the advantage - who supplies this ? Will fit one when engine is next out.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:04 pm
by Onne
All the normal suppliers. ESM etc

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:48 pm
by bmcecosse
Ball release is of course not necessary - provided you don't ride the clutch. Always pop it in neutral when stopped - and foot off clutch immediately. But even so - they do wear down, usually before the plate itself wears out, and so ball release will extend overall service life.