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What do you think of this minor?
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:01 pm
by morrisfanatic
Hi Guys
What do you lot think of this minor?
Do you think it worth buying? - it seems cheap to me?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... %3AIT&rd=1
eBay item number 140005242643

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:06 pm
by chickenjohn
As he suggests- go and view the car and have a good look underneath and inside the sills. Strangely, the ad says the car has had new door sills, but has also never been welded????
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:13 pm
by Onne
maybe he meant door seals?
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:13 pm
by bigginger
"It cannot be overstated how reliable these cars are!" Hmm - it can

I'm no expert on saloon prices, but just make sure it doesn't go stupidly high, and do your best to view it in the flesh before bidding - sounds like a lot of work's been done, so worth checking it out.
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:32 pm
by chrisd87
Well if you buy it then you'll join that exclusive club of Chelmsford 'AR' registered cars

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:47 pm
by morrisfanatic
I think reading it again, it implies that the chassis has not had any welding work done - in other words the metal floor underneath the car. But it has had new sills (are these the metal covers under the doors?)

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:50 pm
by chickenjohn
No, the Morris Minor being of monocoque construction- chassis means all structure- including sills. Unless he meant the main chassis rails??
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:28 pm
by Gareth
He could mean the finishing panels, beneath the doors. Those are bolt-on panels and don't need welding. Of course, they aren't structural, either and could be hiding a horror story...
I don't think the leather seats are original (look suspiciously like Series III seats to me). I know that the car's been photographed half on the pavement and half on the road, but it seems to be sitting rather low...
If you're serious, then have a look and, if you can, take someone knowledgeable with you - it could save you from making an expensive mistake.

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:05 pm
by MinorMattersEditor
I would definitely check it out first.
The Club has come to hear of a couple of incidents of buyers buying 'blind' on Ebay and then when they get the car home realising that they may have paid over the odds.
He may have brilliant feedback but there is clearly confusion over things like whether it has been welded or not. Really the ultimate test is what is the condition now. A car recently welded could be a far better bet than something original.
If I bought this car blind, I would only bid to a figure that would allow for a lot of work to be done - but that is cautious me

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:25 am
by Relfy
It now says lower down the page...
"Just to answer a couple of questions raised
1. The car has had no structural welding underneath, and it doesn't need any either. It is in a good solid condition. I mentioned earlier in the listing that it had new sills - what I meant by sills was the finishing panels, beneath the doors. These are bolt-on panels and don't need welding. It has an excellent chassis. "
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:40 am
by MinorMattersEditor
I would still want to check it myself first or get someone who has an idea of what the construction of a Minor is all about to check it first.
This could be a good buy but if original chassis metal, it could be a basketful of trouble awaiting the unwary. I don't know for sure - I have not looked at it.
The seller is keen for people to take a look - I would do just that and if it looks all ok then put in a bid. BUT only then if the price starts going up.
I am cautious because for example it is described as grey but it is in fact Rose Taupe - I would think that a keeper of a vehicle in as described condition would definitely not describe it as being grey!
I am a keen fan of Ebay but the Club has heard of some awkward transactions involving the buying of Morris Minors unseen and would never endorse the buying of a 40 year old car without looking at it.
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:46 pm
by LouiseM
Hmmmmm. The seller has now ended the listing due to 'an error in the listing'.
Call me cynical but I suspect that 'Morrisfanatic' was the seller of this car, not a prospective purchaser. He (or she) only joined the site a day ago and has also posted two other links to the e - bay auction in the 'for sale' and 'concours' forums

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:03 pm
by bigginger
A beady eye was being kept, certainly - as it is on another person just now

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:24 pm
by Rasputin
1984 "Bigginger is watching you":-)
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:26 pm
by Welung666
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:55 pm
by bigginger
Rasputin wrote:1984 "Bigginger is watching you":-)
An iron fist in a velvet glove...

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:29 pm
by MinorMattersEditor
The whole situation loooks dead fishy to me.
I would be very careful if this one gets relisted.
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:53 pm
by Gareth
Not to put too fine a point on it, it definitely appears to have been someone on here - part of my post has been copied outright...
Gareth wrote:He could mean the finishing panels, beneath the doors. Those are bolt-on panels and don't need welding. Of course, they aren't structural, either and could be hiding a horror story...
eBay advertisement wrote:what I meant by sills was the finishing panels, beneath the doors. These are bolt-on panels and don't need welding.
That smells fishier than a trawlerman's wellies. Eyes are being kept on certain posts, that's for sure...

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:07 pm
by MinorMattersEditor
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MORRIS-MINOR-CONV ... dZViewItem
Just look at this for a valuable lesson!
You need to click on the feedback for the seller and then wonder why they are no longer registered users of Ebay
