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cylinder seals

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:28 am
by Peetee
One of the brake cylinder seals on my Wolseley 1500 front drums has perished. Do Minor seals fit?

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:39 am
by rayofleamington
good question!
If it is the cup type seal then it's worth to check the bore size and see if you can get one that's correct (stands a reasonable chance).
If it is a lip seal (ring type) then it may be the same as the seal from a pattern cylinder...

Generally you are fighting a loosing battle by trying to repair old cylinders :(

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 10:17 am
by bmcecosse
My understanding is that they are the same diameter - but I honestly don't know if the seals will fit. Let us all know when you find out!

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:46 am
by RogerRust
You could try

http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~sandy/wo ... /1500.html

and see if he keeps the seals.

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:45 pm
by johnm
Don't waste your time fitting seals fit a new cylinder assuming you can get one.

It's very unlikely the condition of the bores on the old cylinder will allow a reasonable life on new seals and polishing up the bores is not really worth the effort in my experience.

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 4:23 pm
by Peetee
Thanks for the comments folks.
If I were to remove the cylinder from the backplate and dissasemble, is it straighforward? does it just pull apart?

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 5:08 pm
by rayofleamington
If I were to remove the cylinder from the backplate and dissasemble, is it straighforward? does it just pull apart?
Yes, front ones pretty much comes apart easily. The rears are a little more complex.

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:41 pm
by bmcecosse
The seal just pops out - it's a little bucket. Wolseley cylinders are ubber expensive! I would clean it up and try a new seal - it can be done on the backplate - no need to remove it.

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:26 pm
by wanderinstar
For Wolseley and Riley brake parts you could also try,
Earlpart,
Longbridge Lane,
Loscoe Rd,
Heanor
Derbyshire. 01773 719504 or evenings 01773 768633.

Very helpful.
Ian.

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:18 pm
by Onne
You should have known Roy, mr Wolseley brakes :D :D :D

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:35 am
by RogerRust
I paid £25 each for my Wolseley cylinders. They are genuine Lockhead.
It's just we have got used to cheap pattern parts for the Morris, but when you look at all the posts complaining about the quality of parts £100 for 4 cylinders AND NO PROBLEMS seems good value to me.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:42 pm
by wanderinstar
Couldnt agree more, I paid about £80 for set of front Riley cylinders on ebay.
Ian.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 4:03 pm
by bmcecosse
But I do think Morris cylinder seals will fit ok.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:52 pm
by Peetee
But I do think Morris cylinder seals will fit ok
I'd like to have given that a try but on further inspection the cylinder is beyond it.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 7:21 pm
by bmcecosse
Oh dear. Are these brakes now on your car - or are you overhauling them before fitting ?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:23 am
by Peetee
Are these brakes now on your car - or are you overhauling them before fitting ?
Not on the car yet. The whole shebang was bought on ebay. They were already fitted to Minor uprights and 'ready to fit' but and given thier intended use I did the sensible thing and stripped the whole lot down first.