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disc brakes
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:25 pm
by paul.kissick
hey folks Anybody got a cheaper way of gettin a disc brake system set up on the minor? As the kits that are for sale are mighty expensive and then there is the dreaded postage costs,and not to mention parcel force (long story). i am lookin to get rid of the front drums so no mention about riley brakes.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:30 pm
by paul.kissick
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:16 pm
by aupickup
the cheapest way would be to find a doner marina.
but you would still need to buy the minor/marina hubs, with the correct spacing for the minor wheels
http://shop.morrisminorspares.co.uk/ind ... a499e80d5a
esm do all the other parts, but still add up.
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:43 pm
by jonathon
The cheapest route is as aupickup states is to find a marina/ital donor car but have the swivel pins machined to accept the marina/ital stub axle, you can then use the complete donor set up no need for modified bearings in the hubs. You will need to change the pcd,however if you want to retain minor wheels. If you require further info on this mod please pm me.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:36 pm
by bmcecosse
But it's always going to be order of magnitude less expensive to fit bigger drums. Don't stick your head in the sand over this - they DO work - and very well too !
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:53 pm
by jonathon
Quite agree BM, so long as the parts required are available for the forseeable future. There is no doubt that bigger drums equals better braking, but many folk as in this case would rather follow the disc brake route, which in my opinion offer even better braking, especially when allied to engine and suspension upgrades. Unfortunately the route to find cheap disc upgrades has become harder and harder as the donor vehicles are dissappearing from our scrap yards. Fortunately enlightened traders and some individuals have created kits using an amalgamation of OE parts and some SE parts to create o reliable effective modern upgrade. However as with all 'new'products
they attract a higher purchase price. As this is the case then I suggest to my customers that they save for the parts they require, rather than waste time trying to re-invent the wheel. It is evident that some of the contributors to this forum possess the engineering accumen to create their own braking systems, but many do not and in such an obviously important area of development should be discouraged from an uninformed method of experiment.
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:04 pm
by bmcecosse
Indeed - but the Cossy brakes do look good! The bigger drums conversion is of course just 'bolt-on' - it's eaxactly the same fitment as it was on the larger donor car - 30 mins each side does it with the Wolseley brakes - for some mad reason the Riley wheel cylinders need a different flexi hose - so that will take a while longer.
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:14 pm
by jonathon
No doubting the Cossie version. The disc brake we supply will be fitted within two hours inc dissassembly of the original system, no need for spacers or fiddly setting up, and as previously stated we offer a 260mm RS Turbo upgrade to fit to the existing kit parts, just incase you have a scary beast under your bonnet.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:46 pm
by Wal
No disrespect but I fitted mine, on my own with basic tools, in an afternoon which included removing the prevous set up etc. However there was a lot of time invested beforehand to make it work first time and that's what makes the difference.
Wish I'd known about the 260mm version beforehand though and I might have saved myself the hassle. The only ones I'd seen were 240mm - damn damn damn.
Drums or brakes, it really what suits the purpose. I like the discs because it means longer adjustment intervals and personally I prefer them.
Regards,
Wal
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:34 pm
by jonathon
Wal, hope I did not offend you re-home developed mods.
We have modified our hubs to accept Peugeot calipers and vented discs of 280mm. As you state the planning and ability to create a safe and reliable system is all important.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:45 pm
by Wal
jonathan,
no of course not , as a modifier I really like the effort you put in and just wish I could afford more. The only reason I go my way is cost and I am lucky to have access to engineers etc.
Never even thought of the Peugoets - cool - which ones? Though interested why Peugeot not Ford as that is the way most stufff has gone to date. Appreciate if you don't wish to say due to the time invested.
I was just being precious.
Regards,
Wal
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:33 pm
by jonathon
The Peugeot disc/calipers were from a M16 something or other and was a one off. The reason we did the mod was simply because the customer had the items from his donor car. If I remember we just machined the mounting face back by 3mm and adjusted the spacing of the caliper mounting bracket. Its amazing how many parts are interchangable from ,say , Ford, Peugeot, and now we even find that Saab 9000 alloys will fit the Ford PCD disc kit and Escort rear axle. The fronts require a 4-5mm spacer otherwise its a straight swap
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:08 pm
by jonathon
Sorry ,forgot to say the Peugeot and Ford share the same PCD but the former have a slightly larger center bore.