We have successfully used 1.5 mm polypropyliene to make inner liners for the front wheel arches. Just like on modern cars. It saves all the road muck and salt getting round the headlights and door pillar.
For the rears, we used the plastic liners off an old Volvo adapted to suit. This leaves the inner wings like new.
Has anybody else tried this?
If you don't fancy making any for yourselfs, a company called Lokari (http://www.lokari.de/en/innenkotfluegel.php) make an aluminium version for classic cars including the morris 1000. Worth checking out with Lokari first.
This is a good investment if you are keeping your minor.
hiya mate , ive got some flexi plastic sheets called " cordek" as used on building sites , im using this to form an inner wing protector, but ill have a look at yours ,cheers steve
Any pictures? Sounds like a good idea,but it would have to be a perfect fit, to keep out the muck
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remember these are aluminium! we have made our own from aluminium from the past and worked fine (for 20 years or so)
the wheel arches do not have to be a perfect fit- so long as you keep the majority of water out. It may be hard finding the right shape wheel arch from a scrap car- if you make your own, make a template out of cardboard then use black polypropylene. - its great not have the wheel arches not rusting away!
I don't know if you know, but when this company mentions a pair, is that only 2 (don't say duh!) or is it for the whole car?
Onne van der S. MMOCno 60520 Moderator
2dr 1971 White DAF 55 (with hopefully a 1600cc engine soon)
2dr 1973 Bergina (DAF 44)
2dr Estate 1975 DAF 46 in red
2dr saloon 1972 DAF 44 in Mimosa
I don't know if you know, but when this company mentions a pair, is that only 2
yes - a pair is only 2.
If you want front and rear that'll be 2 different pairs.
I'd be very interested to see the results of some DIY versions and the modified Volvo rears. You'd probably be able to get pictures in the club mag. Wheelarch liners are a pretty good idea on a minor, as the mud traps lead to some pretty deadly rot if left untended.
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I think the liners would need to be well designed otherwise they will still let mud into rust trap areas and hide those areas from your hose pipe/ waxoyl spray gun. The owner may not remove them to remove the muck and you're back to square one. I've seen muck build up and resultant rot behind the wheelarch liners of modern cars, so they're not necessarily a cure- all.
Polyprolylene would be better than ali as he material, you don't want two different metals in contact with salty road water on the underside of the car!!!
Ali doesn't really like salt anyway. Not to go off-topic or anything, but my new employer does Airconditioning units. Some modern euroboxes have ali condensors, mounted in front of the rad. Some were dead within 6 months, due to salty roads.
I'll have a better look at the site
Onne van der S. MMOCno 60520 Moderator
2dr 1971 White DAF 55 (with hopefully a 1600cc engine soon)
2dr 1973 Bergina (DAF 44)
2dr Estate 1975 DAF 46 in red
2dr saloon 1972 DAF 44 in Mimosa
Onne van der S. MMOCno 60520 Moderator
2dr 1971 White DAF 55 (with hopefully a 1600cc engine soon)
2dr 1973 Bergina (DAF 44)
2dr Estate 1975 DAF 46 in red
2dr saloon 1972 DAF 44 in Mimosa
salty_monk wrote:Have to be careful the liner itself doesn't become the new muck trap...
Aye, too true. Surely a more effective way of preventing rust is to jack up the car and hose away all muck etc in said areas and give a nice coat of rust prevention every so often? I dont like the idea of something preventing easy access to these areas as it would stop me making the extra effort each time I clean the car.
Plus, if certain areas are obscured by guards the MOT man may insist on these being removed to enable inspection of the vehicle structure.
Having fixed up a wreck of a Fiesta 2 years ago, my expereince is that plastic liners are considered structurally sound and anything behind them is only cosmetic!
I had to fix part of the wheelarch as it was showing next to the liner, but when removing the plastic liner found that the front structural member was completely shot (rotted from the inside)
This involved more than just a quick plate, and the car would have been pretty dangerous without a proper repair but none of this was needed for the MOT.
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Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block
chickenjohn wrote:
Plus, if certain areas are obscured by guards the MOT man may insist on these being removed to enable inspection of the vehicle structure.
Surely that would mean doing it for every VW, Volvo and (I'm guessing) Merc that went for an MOT?
Plus, if certain areas are obscured by guards the MOT man may insist on these being removed to enable inspection of the vehicle structure.
Having fixed up a wreck of a Fiesta 2 years ago, my expereince is that plastic liners are considered structurally sound and anything behind them is only cosmetic!
I had to fix part of the wheelarch as it was showing next to the liner, but when removing the plastic liner found that the front structural member was completely shot (rotted from the inside)
This involved more than just a quick plate, and the car would have been pretty dangerous without a proper repair but none of this was needed for the MOT.
Thats amazing, shows what a joke the MOT can be. So to get a dodgy Minor thrugh the MOT all I need to do is cover the underside with polypropylene liners! hmnnn.
Interesting that the liner did not stop the structure of the car from rotting- just goes to show that they can actually trap moisture and or mud and even promote corrosion by keeping the area damp.
As for MOT regs, they may one day bring in a rule about this- say all 10 year old (or over) cars have to have their liners removed at MOT to enable inspection. I reckon its coming.
I think car manufacturers only started putting under wing liners in so they could offer a 6 year anti perforation warranty- stops the front wings from rusting through so quickly- but may do little for the main structure of the car
anything like that can trap mud, which holds water, that can not drain out.
i will leave mine like it is and just keep it washed from mud and keep an eye on it
(rotted from the inside)
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