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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:56 am
by theminorsite
uax6 wrote: I knew nothing about the interbranch rally [...] and challenges etc should be done (certainly if it was a success!)
Andy G
Thats what bugs me about it. Why didn't you know about it - because you hadn't been told. Interbranch could be so much more, if only people were aware of it, encouraged to compete with other branches ('my' lot love nothing better than getting one over on W. Yorks and they love to get one over on us!) - not in a nasty way, but with the idea that "I dont mind losing, but having them beat us? No way!" sort of thing. Winston was a rather special case, in that I cant envisage ever putting that much work into an Interbranch beforehand again, but for this years one it was nothing more than a couple of hours with me and a pal. We only had five teams actually entered, but I think there'd have been more if we trumpeted it up a bit, got the award ceremony cheered/jeered on as appropriate, taken the mick out of those who didn't fare so well, etc. Apparently next year, given the backing of the insurance company (ahem) we'll be having a raft race, which would be bloody marvellous! The only tiny fly in the ointment there is that it would require branches who wished to compete actually putting some time into building their raft before the event, rather than just on the weekend, and that might put some off. It wouldn't for Lincs, because we're halfwits, but thats another story...

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:12 pm
by uax6
And what size engine are we allowed on the raft? :lol:

I had no idea about it at all (not going to a local branch is a pain, b***** work!).

I would be up for it, and the van has a roof-rack to put it on.

MAybe something should go in minor matters..

Mention of Ray N adversting his new book does somewhat get on my oops I typed a naughty word. He seems to be allowed to use the MMOC as his personal publicity machine, but won't allow others to... grr.

BTW Where are we next year?

Andy G

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:32 pm
by theminorsite
uax6 wrote:And what size engine are we allowed on the raft? :lol:
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No, just kidding! I think its going to be strictly manual power :lol:

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:41 pm
by wibble_puppy
loads of points raised here in a really sensible way. 8) loads that i agree with, too. 8) and i still have no idea what the interbranch rally is - perhaps not helped by not being able to belong to a "local" branch (illness rarely lets me attend evening meetings) :lol:

theminorsite, bully for you for actually picking up the phone and contacting a member of the organising committee about the issues you felt needed to be raised. :D I feel it would be highly appropriate for someone from the committee to post here in response to the points which have been raised.

wibble

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:54 pm
by stevey
the branch challenges are always a laugh!!!!!!!! dont know about next year if weve got to make a raft, might be tricky gettin it over

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:16 pm
by theminorsite
Interbranch Challenge
Defining what it is isn't that easy really, its easier just to give some examples. A few (three?) years ago the idea was bought back from the dead (it had been fairly dormant for a number of years) and a bloke called Ade set up a Downhill Race. Word was put about, mostly word of mouth so we heard from Rosie as she's in our branch, that there would be an event at the National and that we should set about building karts. Some branches took it more seriously than others - a few showed up with machines created from customised fairground rides (the train was a storm!), others just bike wheels and bits of string, and yet others like us who really went to town and spent six months building a kart that looked like a Minor.

As an aside, that kart had so much work done that we refused to let it die after the National, and we've raced it at other events including the Belchford Downhill (where 40mph is regularly attained). It was so over-engineered that in a crash a couple of years back it fully wrote off two other karts and received no more than scratches! Us same sad gits are now partway through building another kart with dual suspension and other mods ready for this years gravity-racing season.

Anyway, back to the point. All the teams who had karts (about 11 from memory) were timed down a course with the winners going on to further heats and the overall winner getting the coveted Interbranch Challenge trophy. Modesty forbids me from saying that we won every race we entered,,,, oops, too late I've said it :wink: :wink:
Sorry, for some reason I cant get this image to work, so follow this link:
http://www.theminorsite.co.uk/album_cat.php?cat_id=22

The following year Interbranch was a bit more tame and just involved running round a bit, and we (Lincs) only finished runners up. Boo hiss. Last year we had Winston, as mentioned above, and the challenge consisted of getting five members in the car with a tennis ball balanced on the bonnet and then navigating round a bumpy course without losing the ball. It was total chaos, the car almost burned out a clutch, but we all had a fantastic time and, again, modesty forbids me mentioning who won :wink:
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Last weekend we had far less planning time (we didnt get asked til Saturday morning) so the event was more low-key. Much running round, skipping(!), catch, that sort of stuff, with points for each round. Theoretically only the top three would go through to the final, but having discovered we were ourselves outside the top three we changed it to include all entrants (prerogative of the organiser 8) ). The final consisted of 'Generation Game' style stuff, a pair from each team had to replace two members of the Morris dancers troupe and with just two minutes instruction do a full routine. Bloody marvellous fun, although we came near last, so revenge is promised for next time.
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So, basically, the Interbranch is whatever the organiser wants to come up with. Its just an element of competition, lasting a couple of hours tops, trying to beat every other team and show them that of course your region is better than them. I've seen from recent years that the more organisation that goes into it, the better its received, so I'm considering applying to the club to run the Challenge for forthcoming years, or at least a few. On the other hand, if others have particularly strong feelings then I'd be happy to stand aside and let them do it - just say the word.

Oh, and for 'wibble', I didn't ring Andrew, he phoned me!

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:20 pm
by wibble_puppy
thanks for that explanation - it sounds brilliant fun :D

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:18 pm
by stevey
it was brillant!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:11 pm
by alex_holden
The Interbranch challenge sounds like my kind of thing. Can the website members compete as a branch?

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:44 pm
by theminorsite
alex_holden wrote:The Interbranch challenge sounds like my kind of thing. Can the website members compete as a branch?
depends... how good do you think you'd be? ;)

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:48 pm
by alex_holden
theminorsite wrote:
alex_holden wrote:The Interbranch challenge sounds like my kind of thing. Can the website members compete as a branch?
depends... how good do you think you'd be? ;)
Dunno, but I know how to paddle and swim! :o :lol:

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:54 pm
by theminorsite
alex_holden wrote:
theminorsite wrote:
alex_holden wrote:The Interbranch challenge sounds like my kind of thing. Can the website members compete as a branch?
depends... how good do you think you'd be? ;)
Dunno, but I know how to paddle and swim! :o :lol:
Hmmm... okay then, but if you do too well you'll have to be disqualified :o .
Seriously, of course you can enter a team. All branches are encouraged, some with more than one team. The only caveat there is that its extremely useful to know before an event how many teams are entering, rather than finding out on the day. It makes timing a hell of a lot easier. I'm going to have a chat with Ade in the next few days and see if we cant get news out in plenty of time for next years challenge, if only so that we're better prepared if somebody sinks :roll:

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:49 am
by Chadbrook
Sadly I had to miss the national and was looking forward to it because I have a lot of questions about "thingy" in bits and minors in general as im sure many new owners do.

as a newbie I think I would be a bit dubious of taking my ebay minor to a national, the word concorse just isnt what Thingy is, keep it for the realy nice minors but the rest of us need things like "did you really drive that here?" sections, maybe even worst in the show with a wooden spoon :o

seems to me that the way to go is to mount the national in tandem with other events or use a venue with the facilities in place (I went to an american car show at billing aquadrome, full camping facilities and fairground) there must be other facilities like this with other attractions in place... then whatever we do as the MMOC just adds to that, maybe incorporate the interbranch challenge into the national or a version of it.

If its fun people will come and if people come it will make money or at least not make a loss... personaly if I have had a good weekend I dont think how much its cost me (within reason<laffin>) maybe a poll in minor matters is called for... what do you want ? and would you come if we did it?

and who knows... if we get a really strong national meeting every year we might see a few less "unfinished projects" on ebay lets get them on the road.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:27 am
by JimK
Chadbrook wrote:as a newbie I think I would be a bit dubious of taking my ebay minor to a national, the word concorse just isnt what Thingy is, keep it for the realy nice minors but the rest of us need things like "did you really drive that here?" sections, maybe even worst in the show with a wooden spoon :o
It never occurred to me that people would think this way, but I can see why they do. Our Traveller is pretty tidy, but there were some stunning examples at the National. For the record: had my extremely tatty saloon passed the MoT we'd have taken that instead.

Perhaps rally publicity could make it more obvious that any and all Minors are very welcome? E.g.:
"We don't care what condition your car is in; we want to see you and your Minor so we can celebrate that we all love these cars. Cherishing comes in lots of different forms and not all of them involve polishing..."

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:49 am
by Welung666
I took my 4 door which was a very close 2nd for wreck of the potteries rally! desperately needs 4 new doors which I now have, a bootlid and a re-spray. Take it anyway is what I say!

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:04 am
by HarryMango
alex_holden wrote:The Interbranch challenge sounds like my kind of thing. Can the website members compete as a branch?
Rosie H did go to the website area & request a team to enter, but one was not forthcoming :cry: (I was already in the Leicester Branch team)

Rog

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:06 am
by Judge
'Thingies' are welcome to all MMOC events, as are all Morris Minors.

......and believe me, concours owners are also often asked the same "did you really drive that here?" question. In MMOC events they have to, or they are disqualified.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:08 am
by Judge
HarryMango wrote:Rosie H did go to the website area & request a team to enter, but one was not forthcoming
No one asked me :cry: :wink:

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:11 am
by dunketh
I honestly can't think of a way to make shabby Minor owners feel more welcome.
Its all in their heads.
I know - I am one!

My brush painted beast looks fine at a distance and nice in photos but as soon as you park it alongside another at a show it just looks terrible.
I'm not ashamed to drive it but I do feel embarassed when faced with all the 'bufty' folk and fair weather drivers.

Only idea I could think of is maybe having a section called 'Everyday Minors' or 'Morris Motors', set out almost like an exhibit.
Maybe have a rough saloon sat with a bag of cement in the boot and some wood on the roof. Perhaps a rotton traveller sat next to a pot of wood preserver and a brush? Three door on ramps?...
That kind of thing, if you don't think it sounds too daft.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:25 am
by Judge
Firstly you should not be embarrased to show your car, no matter what its condition.

However you could always park it with the 'working' class Minors, you don't have to have it judged if you don't want to.