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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:15 am
by ani
Just an update for all you folks who have given so much advice and help on this one. Charlie had a look at the wheels on Saturday and confirmed that they should definately be changed. I've made a decision to go back to standard 14in and have already got 2 to get me started. More have been offered so it won't be long before I have five! Probably need to do a bit of sanding and spraying :D However ...... Charlie did say that he didn't like some of the welding work on the front of the chassis so this is all going to be checked out over the coming week. Afterall no point having nice wheels if the little b***** falls to bits :lol:

Question - is there an easy way to get old tyres off the rims? My local garage has quoted between £5 and £10 per wheel!!!! I tried with a stanley knife but they are obviously a lot tougher than I thought :cry:

I'll keep you posted with further developments. Charlie - you should post the picture of your daughter in the pick-up - she's really cute :D

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:40 pm
by PSL184
Even if you cut through the tyre with the stanley knife you would never cut through the steel reinforced bead :-(
Good old fashioned tyre levers are what you need. Let all the air out. Stamp on the side walls of the tyres to break the bead from the rim. Then heave and hoe with the levers :-)

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:37 pm
by charlie_morris_minor
I have some tyre levers if you want to come and give it a try...

Branwyn realy enjoyed sitting in your car and has been telling all her friends about sitting in a red morris..

My door is alway open if you want to come for a chat


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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:14 pm
by Matt
Take the center out of the valve to let all the air out, and to allow the air to escape. Stamp on the tyres to try and break the bead, if that doesnt work (and the tyres are scrap anyway) carefully line them up with the wheels of a heavy car and drive over the tyre avoiding the rim. If that doesnt break the bead your stuck going to the local tyre place.

When the bead is broken on both sides of the wheels pull out the inner tube if there is one and use tyre levers to get the tyre off the rim.

I use one of these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/tc960-SEALEY-MANU ... 240%3A1318

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:14 pm
by bmcecosse
Why do want to take the old tyres off the 'bodged' wheels ? The tyres are 13" - so won't fit your 14" wheels, and as far as I can see from the pictures - the old wheels will be scrap anyway .

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:45 pm
by d_harris
I'm a bit intruiged why you wish to remove the old tyres too, what size are they by the way?

I can see that if there is still decent tread on them then its worth keeping/selling them. BTW, that sealy device that matt has pointed out is a great bit of kit. And don't just let the air out in a normal way (pushing the pin) you need to get a valve corer and unscrew the pin from the middle.
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... yId_165648

Its not a paticulary hard job to get the tyres off mind. (My offer of the wheels still stands by the way)

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:35 pm
by Ardenrun
Hi Ani,

I would try somewhere else to remove your tyres, I have had this done in the past, if your going to buy new tyres they will often do it free of charge, as they know you will be back after the rims have been repainted.

I hope the welding proves to be OK, when I acquired my Pickup it had lots of :roll: MOT welding undertaken over the years that even included a section of an Duckhams Oil Can. It was at this point I decided to a new Chasis was required. :(

Drastic measures, but there was hardly any sound metal to weld on to. If the MOT is recent you should be OK as most garages seem pretty tight on welding these days.

All the best

Gary.

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:55 pm
by nslocomotive2
Ive seen a set of Tyres removed with a lump hammer, brick bolster chisel, and a large screw driver :-?

Step 1 Let the all the air out of the tyre.

Step 2 Basicly you bang the $*%t out of Tyre using the hammer and bolster to break the bead on both sides then using then leaver the Tyre off with the chisel and screwdriver - however, this is not good for the neighbors - very noisy :-D

and then there is the getting rid of the tyres :(

possible risk of injury :oops:

and time and effort. :roll:

I would just pay the man :-) and if he is a good chap he would remove them for nothing let you paint them and bring back for new tyres to be fitted as the man above rightly said. :wink:

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:01 pm
by d_harris
Or wait until I bring my 4 as they don't have tyres on at all!

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:32 pm
by ani
Didn't realise there had been a few posts on this one. Thanks all for advice/methods etc - I will keep well clear of that job :-) By the end of the week I should have 6 wheels - 4 without tyres and 2 with. Out of this six I will pick the best five to use on the pickup. If the existing wheels are sprap and from what everyone has said I's sure they are I will get all five tyres removed cos they are good. Might even be useful for son's Fiesta or other son's Escort. Failing that I'll try and sell them. :D That should explain all :)

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:38 pm
by ani
Love this!! However my neighbours would think I'd turned into somekind of small femail maniac :lol: Obviously not for the faint-hearted - could be good for the Krypton Factor :lol:
nslocomotive2 wrote:Ive seen a set of Tyres removed with a lump hammer, brick bolster chisel, and a large screw driver :-?

Step 1 Let the all the air out of the tyre.

Step 2 Basicly you bang the $*%t out of Tyre using the hammer and bolster to break the bead on both sides then using then leaver the Tyre off with the chisel and screwdriver - however, this is not good for the neighbors - very noisy :-D

and then there is the getting rid of the tyres :(

possible risk of injury :oops:

and time and effort. :roll:

I would just pay the man :-) and if he is a good chap he would remove them for nothing let you paint them and bring back for new tyres to be fitted as the man above rightly said. :wink:

Branwyn

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:49 pm
by ani
Fantastic picture :D Many thanks - I'm sure I will see you soon :-)
charlie_morris_minor wrote:I have some tyre levers if you want to come and give it a try...

Branwyn realy enjoyed sitting in your car and has been telling all her friends about sitting in a red morris..

My door is alway open if you want to come for a chat


<br>Image<br>

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:42 pm
by ani
I've now managed to get myself enough 14in wheels - thanks to Charlie, Dan and Gary :-) Lots of sanding down to do before I get the new tyres on.
Question - most of the wheels are standard width but two of them are wider and came off Gary's pick-up. Is it best for me to have all wheels the same size or would it be a good idea to put the two wider ones on the back??
Just interested to know what you all thik.

Ani

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:47 pm
by aupickup
pro best if you are going to use them, on the back

check the numbers tho as some can be the wider LP917 or LP936 :D :D well done if they are

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:47 pm
by PSL184
Yes, quite expensive rims I hear :-)

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:49 pm
by aupickup
PSL184 wrote:Yes, quite expensive rims I hear :-)
shhhhhhhhhhh :D :D

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:22 pm
by d_harris
The wider rims are likely to be van rims, quite hard to get hold of and definatly worth keeping. If you are going to use them stick them on the back with some 165 or 175 tyres on. :D :D :D

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:47 pm
by aupickup
original van rims are fine on 155
i have had bigger tyres on van rims and they are a bit balloony

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:04 pm
by d_harris
I just like fat tyres..... :P

Got 175s on the trav

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:14 pm
by aupickup
yes agree :D on the right rims

what wheel rims are you running