Morris Minor Owners Club

well i will continue to enjoy my moggie

all points taken on board
guess things wont change for the better in my veiw

i understand that the website is a very small minority of the club, but to me the website is the club, and dare i say a more active group than most branches

the club itself comes across as an imprenitable fortress, stuffed with rules, and old veiws, and an old fashioned outlook to others

i have attended many other rallies, and shows , and they are a darn site beter than the club could put on

we do have in the south a good non mmoc club, that like to get out and about and use their moggies,

again only my veiws, and in no way reflects what other members want from the club

how nice to see people having a discussion without throwing the dummys out the pram and not talking to each other again Often I would love to say things at meetings but never do for fear of being shot down people should understand this is just an opinion or just a thought to throw in the ring. If you go to a show and there is other things to see and do it does make it a bit more intresting for other members who come with you for the day. To be 100% true and honest when I go to shows I can look at cars but sometimes when you see one you you seen them all is that just me sorry if that sounds negative but to meet different people of all ages and all types of cars modified origina or custom is the part I love mostl

Agreed, for me its slightly different being on the other side of the counter ,so to speak. Meeting existing and hopefully new customers is a real buzz, as folk are very keen to talk about their own projects, mods or solutions to problems. It then seems quite alien to then walk the rows of std cars that to me ,does become a bit tedious unless someone has done something new or refreshing.
But the show has to appeal to all sorts, however it does seem to have been stuck in a time warp for many years and, I feel, resembles a glorified village fete.

With the large number of folks interested in the vehicles it gives ample scope for alternative events and rallies.

JFDI

ricky1000 wrote:..... interested ........

Maybe, but prepared to do something about it? Seemingly not.

Exactly - my previous comments were directed at the dissenters.

The traditional routes to the MMOC were via the Local Branches and Minor Matters - clearly that has changed and along with it peoples expectations.

The MMOC belongs to the members - it has not been hyped and leveraged so that it might be hived off to the highest bidder - so it is up to them what they wish to do with it.

Good luck to those who give up their time and provide the energy to run the club and the branches and take them forward in this rapidly changing world.

Opps! I thought my idea was a good one. A free National rally would possibly lower peoples expectations and with more people attending and spending more money once in there would probably make just as much money for the club. The Ford Anglia Club of which i am the area rep for has the AGM at the National Rally so is better attended and has the interest of the rally itself. Im sure many would like changes to be made but im with Aupickup its not for the want of trying. Has any significant change to the club been made in the last few years? Breakaway clubs will start appearing more if nothing is done.

COMMERCIALMAN wrote: Breakaway clubs will start appearing more if nothing is done.

Like changes to the MMOC, these would need commitment and active support. So why do I think this won't happen

Good points again Commercialman, ones which have been argued till we are red/blue in the face.
Change, Bill, especially for 'new' clubs/groups largely depends on what is on offer. It needn't be as encompasing as the MMOC but probably provide 'niche' interest, that could be run online.

Change, Jonathon, still needs commitment and active support. I have made a considerable number of suggestions as to how I feel the club could be improved, as have others. However to put them into practice, either within the existing club, or indeed a new one, would need people to become actively involved. To me it seems that unfortunately this will never happen.

To prove this I would ask one simple question, 'What are you prepared to do to make it happen?'. Remember, YOU are the club.

Might I suggest that you wait a few months, and all will become clear.
Yes I am part of a club, which does not always perform the way I wish, but as has been said on many occasions by those wanting change, we are flogging a dead horse, so move on.
Commitment to start a new club is easy and it will happen, but it is not to rival or compete with the MMOC rather, offer a new niche, direction and service for those like minded (hum might be a very small club then !! )

I rest my case

Reading this thread one thing seems clear to me. Each individual has their own thing to say and each is in part a personal opinion swayed to a degree by thier experience and/or commitment to the MMOC. That has it's issues for me insomuch as it's difficult to separate the two and define what is in part a formal opinion on serious issues. We have for example, moderators but when and to what extent do they communicate to the MMOC board and reply on their behalf? If the MMOC has a say in something as a result of a comment on this forum it should, by virtue of the fact that it is hosting this site make it very clear that it is a formal response and not an opinion. From my perspective it would appear that the majority of the comments on here are never replied to formally by the club. If the MMOC choses never to field responses here then perhaps it should not be hosting this forum. Perhaps the MMOC board choose not to use the forum as a form of communication? I would agree that this community is only a small part of the membership and may not be representative but when issues are raised about, say, lack of parts availability then it goes without saying that such a comment HAS to be representative of the whole club membership. This may be a small community but it is high profile and as such has the ability to affect the way the club as a whole is percieved by many more than contribute here.
I'd like to make this clear that, because of the potential of mis-interpreting text, that these comments are no way meant as criticism. There are mearly gaps in my knowledge of the way this club and forum interact.

Before saying anymore, I too would like to clarify once again that none of my comments are intended as criticism. All the comments made so far are my own personal views on how the club could move forward, and encourage new members, both young and old, to join.

In respect of the club using this messageboard, or indeed the website as a whole, I have always said that this is something that should be given very serious consideration.

I feel that many of the comments made here revolve around an apparent lack of communication between the membership and the club's committee. At present the only options that seem to be open to the members to discuss their concerns etc with the committee, are either by letter, at rallies (if committee members are available) and at the AGM (if notified to the committee prior to the meeting).

I honestly believe that a visible presence on here by the committee, or at least a representative (I did offer to do this when a committee member), would make it more approachable, and could be of great benefit to the club as a whole.

I honestly believe that a visible presence on here by the committee, or at least a representative [snip], would make it more approachable, and could be of great benefit to the club as a whole

A much neater and tidier way to say what I said. Thanks Judge. It's nice to know I'm not getting too singular and wonky an angle on things in my old age.

Judge wrote:
I honestly believe that a visible presence on here by the committee, or at least a representative (I did offer to do this when a committee member), would make it more approachable, and could be of great benefit to the club as a whole.

Good point, an active presence of a committee member or members on here would feel like the club are reaching out to younger members. The editor of Minor Matters posting on here is a great start.

Judge wrote:

COMMERCIALMAN wrote: Breakaway clubs will start appearing more if nothing is done.

Like changes to the MMOC, these would need commitment and active support. So why do I think this won't happen

All branches have a sub commitee so wouldnt take alot to opt out of the main club. Most fund their own events. My own personal view of course. Are we on this forum just some of the disillusioned. Maybe a questionairre included in Minor Matters would gather info on what the membership wanted and felt.

The club has already done this. The most important part is acting on it. Likewise on some of the suggestions made here.

Are we on this forum just some of the disillusioned.

Sorry commercialman but that remark makes out that the whole of the forum is disillusioned which is not the case.
From a branch point of view we as you said fund our own event, but as far as I am aware it has never come up at the committee or branch meets to leave the MMOC so to suggest otherwise is making assumptions that dont exsist.
Agreed that the MMOC is not perfect and needs to move forward but starting up independant branches all over the place hardly seems the way forward to me, we also where possible support the events put on by the adjoining branches as well as events futher afield.
Sorry if you fell I have gone over top with my reply but as Bill has said their are lots of shakers but where are the movers.

Kevin wrote:..... their are lots of shakers but where are the movers.

Neatly put Kevin