Morris Minor Owners Club

Ratbag wrote: Servoed discs however, raise the spectre of loss of braking advantage if the engine dies.

Eeeek! Is that right?

OI! I've been down south numerous times in the Mog

No Juliet,
You will only have less assistance in pedal operation ,your braking capacity will remain the same, but you will need to push the pedal down harder than with a servo working.

Nowt wrong with drums, it's just a matter of adapting your driving a lot cheaper than adapting the car and as you can guess, I live north of watford

Mal

Hear Hear Mal!

cheers jonathon, you're my guardian angel

Servoed discs however, raise the spectre of loss of braking advantage if the engine dies.

Only if you have poor driving skill or a seized engine! If you keep the engine in gear when it cuts out you still have full servo action. Pretty much everyone who has driven a standard Minor will use engine braking, therefore this should be natural anyway.

In recent years, various people have tried to sue after having a crash in their new car because their engine stalled [on the grounds of 'almost complete loss of brakes'.] Modern cars have a stupidly large servo ratio so that if the engine is not running you can't stop the car - however you have to take come out of gear and into neutral to acheive this, so as far as I know nobody ever managed to 'successfully sue'.

thank you very much for that info and explanation Ray - yer a dude

I thought you normalley got a servo'd pump or two after the engine stops

Yes there is always a residual so that you get about four servoed actions
after switching off.

Willie please PM me if you require info on h/tanks

jonathon wrote:No Juliet,
You will only have less assistance in pedal operation ,your braking capacity will remain the same, but you will need to push the pedal down harder than with a servo working.

I thought I'd picked my words carefully enough, but one or two zoned in on 'loss of braking' !!

It's a very common belief that you completely lose your brakes when the engine stops. Bizarre, but very common (sorry Widdlepuppy)

bigginger wrote: (sorry Widdlepuppy)

You said that deliberately Andrew

OK I give up what is a Wibblepuppy ?
No problem with Andrews version as I have has a few of those

Judge wrote:

bigginger wrote: (sorry Widdlepuppy)

You said that deliberately Andrew

Darn! Red handed...

Start with... am in sunny Scotland

When I got my little Moggie I thought eeeeeeek! How can I cope without my servo? But the more I drive my unservoed Moggy, the easier braking becomes... maybe I'll even change my ambition to fit a servo!

I'm down south and I seem to manage just fine with non-servo drums. Just as long as your right leg is strong enough there's plenty of braking power. In fact one thing I like about non-servo brakes is that the pedal has much more 'feel' than a modern over-assisted braking system.
Having said that there aren't many hills round my way though so fade is less of an issue

few hills here... more likely though to be a local "jakey" stepping out onto the road (a gentleman who spends his day drinking alcohol and wandering around the city centre - often quite friendly)

a local "jakey" stepping out onto the road

We have them down here as well only the nickname is not so pleasant.