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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:26 pm
by motherofgod
Hi David,
instead of buying rust remedies, have a look at this
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/456478/rust_removal_tip/
it's free rust removal. Enjoy and keep up the good work!
James<br>

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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:29 pm
by ani
I take it all back - having now looked at that patch you've done - I'm on my way round. You can get some extra practise in on mine

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:47 pm
by aupickup
hmm i personally think david that for the amount of work patching that inner wind and then wire wheeling the rest, you may find tiny pin holes where the mwtal is wafer thin
i would personally considder a new domed inner wing, new flitch, you will need a flange on the bottom to weld the engine bay floor
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:15 pm
by Dean
Keep up the good work David! Welding to begin with can be frustrating, especially when you constantly keep blowing holes. It takes a great deal of practice to master controlling the heat in the join to stop blowing through. Welding is not something you can rush, take your time. I found rather than welding in a long seam, drill holes through your patch at 15mm intervals with a spot weld drill (10mm dia) and plug weld the patch on. This way you spot weld the patch on, it takes out the frustration while learning. It looks neater too for beginners.
http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/plug-weld.htm
It is described better in the link. This gives you time to master your seam welding skills, but moving along with the project at the same time. ;) Enjoy!
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:20 pm
by toginthemog
I thought the same dennis and then what a nice job its going to be david you have enough to get on with so its worth thinking about
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:28 pm
by rich-legg
aupickup wrote:hmm i personally think david that for the amount of work patching that inner wind and then wire wheeling the rest, you may find tiny pin holes where the mwtal is wafer thin
i would personally considder a new domed inner wing, new flitch, you will need a flange on the bottom to weld the engine bay floor
I agree, you could weld-in a new panel in the time to do a couple of patches.
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:43 pm
by aupickup
definately would be the best route
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:07 pm
by davidmiles
Dean, I can't wait to try that idea out tommorow, I'd love to replace the inner wing panel with a repair guys, but, ive got so few true original panels on the cab, I need what I have left to keep things lined up. I've got to save as much as I can or I'm doomed to have everything out of line. but this drill and spot welding technique could be a great help for me. I'll need an inner arch lower repair though, its completly missing on mine
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:27 pm
by aupickup
you can do the lower inner domed arch if you have the skills to panel beat
or buy a new inner dome wing and cut the bottom out and use as a repair panel, maybe another way to go
i would still replace the complete inner wing
but first thing to do is to get the doors jigged up and work from there, or it will be a night mare to line the doors up after wards
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:13 pm
by Dean
An even better way David, is to drill holes around the cut out hole in the body work. Then clamp your patch on (or self taper it on) and weld through the body work onto a solid patch. This way you are not constantly fighting to beat the differing thickness of steel on the body work. So basically don't the drill holes through the patch. It's not one for the purist, but the weld will be strong enough. Remove the self tapers when finished. ;)
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 5:44 pm
by davidmiles
This is MMOC at it's very best, Les, one of MMOC's finest, has made up and posted me a chassis triangle template for me to fabricate replacements missing from my chassis. Thanks Les. I'll keep you all up to date on their progress.
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:01 pm
by davidmiles
here's a real horror hole in my front inner wing, not so much hole as holes.
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:03 pm
by davidmiles
I cut a cardboard template out to the shape of the metal covering the holes, and cut it out in sheet metal using tinsnips.
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:09 pm
by davidmiles
having measured where I wanted my patch to sit, I drilled holes through the wing just like Dean suggested.
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:11 pm
by davidmiles
Here's a shot taken by Kay my 12 year old daughter, shielding her eye's, thats why its a bit OOF (out of focus)
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:27 pm
by davidmiles
here's a couple of shots of the wing welding results, the top picture is the seam welded inner wing, while the lower picture is of the plug welded outer, as Dean suggested..<br>

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:28 pm
by d_harris
Thats rather good David. Keep up the good work

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 9:17 pm
by Dean
Excellent.. your getting there! Give the new bit of steel a tap with a hammer, if it sounds solid and no vibration. Do a cartwheel, punch the air and shout whoooo hoooo!!!

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:02 pm
by davidmiles
Whooo hooo, yeah that feels good. I did a seam weld on the inside because I didn't want moisture getting trapped in between the repair patch and the original panel. I'm feeling pritty chuffed, everyone should have a go at this, it's great fun.
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:04 pm
by d_harris
Yes, Yes it is!