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Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:21 am
by Boris64
Bmc,

Thanks for the message.

The carb and manifold are as the earlier photos.

I'm planning on fitting a Hif 38 carb with alloy manifold to the existing 1098 head having cut the inlet off a standard combined manifold.

Opening up the throat is a perhaps rather extreme description of what you suggested earlier :) ie radius the inlet.

Have I misunderstood something?

Thanks.

Pete

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:32 am
by Boris64
Sorry, this is the much more useful photo of the inlet manifold.

Will this fit the 1098 head or do I need to go shopping again? :oops:

Thanks

Pete[frame]Image[/frame]

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:04 am
by bmcecosse
Yes it will fit - either machine for the rings - or discard them. The inlet to the carb should be gently radiused - I use a half-round file followed by wet/dry etc , no machinery!

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:37 am
by Boris64
Bmc,

Thanks for confirmation.

Are the inlet ports in the 1098 head the same size as those in the alloy manifold (1.25" from photo) and it's just minor machining to accommodate the rings?

If so can I discard the rings?

Thanks

Pete

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:56 am
by bmcecosse
Just discard the rings - some locate the manifold with small dowel pins - but usually the studs locate it well enough. By all means open up the head ports slightly to match the manifold. Again - mounted points and electric drill......

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:11 pm
by Boris64
Bmc,

Thanks, next stop is to take the existing carb and manifold off and see what I need to deal with.

I believe I have everything now so fingers crossed.

Pete

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:28 am
by Boris64
A quick note to complete this thread and to thank all for their advice.

The full story and photos are in Boris 64 resto thread.

In short

1. Took advice
2. Bought the bits on ebay
3. Cut the inlet from a combined manifold
4. Removed 1.25" SU and combined manifold in 1 piece
5. Fitted exhaust only manifold
6. Fitted Hif38 carb on inlet manifold
7. Connected hoses and cables
8. Started engine
9. Tuned as advice on this forum


The result-

Very easy to do, noticeably faster acceleration, noticeably more noise.

Replaced 1.25" SU :cry: :oops: :D

All good fun

Pete[frame]Image[/frame]

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:14 pm
by bmcecosse
Well done - check that plastic pipe on the vacuum connection doesn't just 'suck flat' when you rev up and then close the throttle.....

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:42 pm
by Boris64
Bmc,

Thanks for the positive reply and earlier advice.

My final line although rather unclear was the sad confession however.

I refitted the 1.25" SU as the noise was too much for the junior mechanic as she uses the car every day :oops: :D

Pete

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:44 pm
by bmcecosse
Just look for a quieter air filter - ex marina/Maestro/Princess -something like that. I have the same filter - can't say I notice the noise - mainly because of the straight through big bore exhaust........ :wink:

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:32 pm
by MikeNash
Boris,
As I've got all the bits you've fitted except the big bore carb, can you tell us how it all goes with the standard 1.25 inch SU. Any improvements remaining?
Regards, MikeN.

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:34 pm
by bmcecosse
The performance will be limited by the airflow through the carb/airfilter combo - so top end will be no better than before, but there should be more urge at lower revs - until that airflow limit is reached. I'm Interested to hear how that works out in practice too!

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:10 am
by Boris64
Bmc, Mike,

It didn't occur to me to retain the improved separate manifold and just refit the 1.25" carb :oops: :oops: how easy would that have been!!!

I just put all the original kit back on in one piece as it came off.

I can't comment on the hybrid which I think you're describing Mike.

Pete

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:30 am
by bmcecosse
You will need an adapter plate for carb to manifold - but easy enough to make up.

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:54 am
by Boris64
Bmc,

Thanks, I noticed that my carb to combined manifold studs are north and south, whereas those on the separate inlet manifold are at 2.00 and 8.00, if you'll permit the mixed metaphor.

Pete

Re: best carb for 1098..

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:12 am
by bmcecosse
Hence the need for an adapter plate...