Promoting the Preservation and Use of the Postwar Morris Minor
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But that's what ACE does isn't?aceadvice wrote:Surely the concept of a democracy is that those alternative views are allowed to be aired and considered in any legislation?
Obviously the views of different car organisations, and their members, can differ and ACE is entitled to their own opinion as much as anyone else is. However you have posted a message on numerous classic car websites which is worded in such a way to cause concern, and doesn't actually give classic car owners the full picture. I appreciate that you represent a car association but please don't use the MMOC forum as a platform for putting forward the views of ACE (which the MMOC is not a member of) or criticising other car associations. You have your own website for that purpose. Please contact me via personal message if you wish to discuss further.The purpose of this Association of Car Enthusiasts (ACE) website is to provide a platform where all vehicle based legislative issues can be readily accessed and to provide a rallying point for all interested parties.
Thank you Stig. I just think that members should be allowed to make up their own minds about aceadvice's initial post after being informed of the full facts, not provided with 'selective' information.Stig28 wrote:Can I just thank Louise for adding some rationality and balance.
I agree with Chris 100%. We must stop this madness, it is a slippery slope to the evil bureaucratic EU government dictatorship coming and forceably taking your classic from you and crushing it. And this is another slide down the slippery slope to total EU government control of every aspect of our lives. This evil must be resisted, there is no room for compromise.chrisd87 wrote:Louise, I understand that you consider people unduly alarmed by this, but I think if we as a group continue to take such a complacent attitude then we will begin to see restrictions in one form or another imposed on the freedom to use our cars. We need to realise that there are plenty of people out there who would love to see our cars off the road or only allowed out on special occasions. We should not compromise with this position, instead we should take them on and defeat them.
We really must not accept the principle that a car's 'classic-ness' is in any way defined by the mileage it covers, and whether or not it is used as a means of daily transport. That is what this definition will begin to do. I understand the argument that at the moment this means very little, but my worry is for the future - once this definition is adopted, any future legislation pertaining to classic vehicles is likely to use it (otherwise there's no point in coming up with it). I'd much rather not see this principle appear anywhere at all. Although this would be an EU definition, it is hard to see how the FBHVC could argue for a different (more permissive) one to be used in UK legislation if they've been enthusiastically promoting this one in Europe. Likewise I understand that FIVA are not explicitly arguing in favour of a 1,500km restriction, but I wonder about the wisdom of waving this figure under the noses of legislators too much as it's just inviting a mileage restriction of some sort (which would also conveniently enforce a 'not daily transport' clause which would otherwise be all but impossible to enforce).
I am going to e-mail the FBHVC with my concerns, and will see what they say.