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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:46 pm
by rayofleamington
im not going to be impressed if i end up being a machinest........
Most machinists can probably spell it... and a good one earns as much as a teacher (skilled people don't need to be looked down on). Those that can't spell it might end up thinking they know better ?
Gimme someone off an mechanical engineering apprenticeship any day rather than a graduate.... ;-)
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:49 pm
by Cam
The code is for Stoke-on-Trent! I wonder where abouts they are?
Gimme someone off an mechanical engineering apprenticeship any day rather than a graduate....
Excellent grammar there Ray!
Don't write all graduates off as theory bound bumbling fools. What about the practical people that go and do degrees etc??
Hook, line and sinker!!
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:17 pm
by Matt
Ray.... I have a good excuse, my spelling is rubbish because I am dyslexic :p Mech Eng at C&G (Imperial) has good machine training.....
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:35 pm
by lydenburg
Stoke on Trents not to bad for anyone in the midlands, I regularly pass there on the way to the inlaws. So a good option for me.
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:47 pm
by rayofleamington
Excellent grammar there Ray!
Yup. One day I'll avoid sarkasm.... even the subtle stuff ;-)
Not all graduates are useless (as you and I both know.. :lol) however too many are. Despite this, they think that they are God's gift to engineering.
It helps to remind them every now and then....
ie. 'a vague memory of some of the theory', and 'being able to get a sensible solution based on best practice AND a calculated result within a short space of time' are completely different things.
Matt,
Every accredited Mech-Eng course has to have machine training - completely worthless though unless you spend a couple of years at it. Even if you did train to be a machinist, tool room skills are no longer college taught and you'd end up learning the difference between G01 and G03's from day 1.
The real point of the machine training is to help students understand that putting something on a drawing has consequences to the manufacture of the parts .Therefore as machines have finite capabilities, the manufacture method has to be considered in the design.
That's slightly off point - all I meant was that a skilled machinist is nothing to look down on, compared to having a degree on paper.
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:26 pm
by Matt
Im not saying it is, its just not what I want to do!!
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 4:48 pm
by Kevin
im not going to be impressed if i end up being a machinest...
So How did they build your Moggie then Matt by using theories.
And to quote your Uni
City & Guilds College is one of the founding constituent colleges of Imperial College and included all of Imperial's engineering departments and the Business School.
So they dont look down on it either.
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 5:06 pm
by Cam
Yup. One day I'll avoid sarkasm.... even the subtle stuff
Nah, it's funnier WITH the sarCasm!
Not all graduates are useless (as you and I both know.. :lol) however too many are. Despite this, they think that they are God's gift to engineering. It helps to remind them every now and then....
ie. 'a vague memory of some of the theory', and 'being able to get a sensible solution based on best practice AND a calculated result within a short space of time' are completely different things.
Yes, a lot are and I have seen many with very good degrees that have trouble standing upright! In fact I used to know a PhD who could only get out of the back seat of a 2 door car by putting his hands on the ground!! (weird bloke!). Always best to remind them of the 'real world!!'
In fact the only people worse than the know-all graduate is the 1st/2nd year student that has just had a sniff of theory and thinks they know everything!!! Quite amusing sometimes.
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 7:28 pm
by Matt
Kevin, I have done virtually no actual machining, ive used a drill a pair of tin snips, some screwdrives/spanners/sockets, and a mig........
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:13 pm
by salty_monk
Matt,
please stop digging; you're making me cringe....
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 2:22 pm
by Gareth
Tin-snips... MIG... what are these of which you speak...?
Does that mean I'm not supposed to mend my car with Copydex and the leftovers from the DT cupboard...
Someone throw him a ladder!
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 2:25 pm
by Kevin
Someone throw him a ladder!
Do they make them long enough to go in a hole that deep
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:14 pm
by Matt
they make fairly long ladders........
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:35 pm
by salty_monk
they make fairly long ladders........
In Theory or in practice...... Sorry, couldn't resist that
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:24 pm
by Matt
whoah guys i never said i knew lots of theory - i don't even know what im meant to know in the 1st year at the moment.....
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:18 pm
by lydenburg
I find Gaffer tape is good!!
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:55 pm
by Matt
gaffer tape solves almost everything........
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:38 pm
by pskipper
One of my friends cars was held together with bluetac
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:24 am
by lydenburg
bluetac stretches more than gaffer tape
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:32 am
by Matt
true, but gaffer tape is stickier.....