1954 Morris Minor Restoration

Discuss anything Morris Minor related.
Forum rules
By using this site, you agree to our rules. Please see: Terms of Use
Dean
Minor Legend
Posts: 2180
Joined: Fri May 30, 2008 9:41 pm
Location: Sutton Coldfield
MMOC Member: No

Post by Dean »

Those inner wings are an easy fix Josh. I had to do mine, it's a great opportunity to get the rust out of the hidden section and get some paint in their before you weld it up. Keep some water handy though if you do paint inside incase when you are welding and the paint inside starts to smoke. ;)
My Minor:
A Clarendon Grey 1953 4 Door Series II.
MMOC - 66535


mmjosh
Minor Legend
Posts: 1066
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:51 am
Location: Atherstone,Warwickshire
MMOC Member: No

Post by mmjosh »

going to be welded tomorrow

User avatar
d_harris
Minor Legend
Posts: 4388
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:52 pm
Location: Sunny Brighton
MMOC Member: No

Post by d_harris »

Have to say, thats not too bad! Shouldn't be too difficult to sort that out...

andrew.searston
Minor Addict
Posts: 687
Joined: Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:55 pm
Location: kenilworth
MMOC Member: No

Post by andrew.searston »

little bit of tin worm you got their josh
[sig]9671[/sig]
iandromiskin
Minor Fan
Posts: 475
Joined: Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:51 am
Location: Dromiskin, Co. Louth, Ireland
MMOC Member: No

Post by iandromiskin »

Out of curiosity, how exactly do you take the wing off a Minor ? Is it simply just a case of undoing some bolts in the engine bay ? I only ask as I want to take a wing off to get it resprayed rather than doing it on the car.
Gertie, 1962 Saloon, Milly, 1969 Traveller (ex APL 971H) and now KAS 1958 4 Door Saloon.
[img]http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/iandromiskin/DSC_0051-1.jpg[/img][img]http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/iandromiskin/Picture112.jpg[/img][img]http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/iandromiskin/Picture366.jpg[/img]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnDuQIOtYcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuhsoEd1GhQ
mmjosh
Minor Legend
Posts: 1066
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:51 am
Location: Atherstone,Warwickshire
MMOC Member: No

Post by mmjosh »

on the inner wing were the trunnions are there are about 6 bolts what you can't undo from the engine bay because the are in box section the only way you can undo them is at the top by the trunnions and the are really easy to take off.

alex_holden
Minor Legend
Posts: 3798
Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:46 am
Location: Burnley
MMOC Member: No

Post by alex_holden »

iandromiskin wrote:Out of curiosity, how exactly do you take the wing off a Minor ? Is it simply just a case of undoing some bolts in the engine bay ? I only ask as I want to take a wing off to get it resprayed rather than doing it on the car.
No, the bolts are in the wheel arch. All but the frontmost bolt screws into captive nuts in the inner wing. You also need to remove the hockey stick, which is held on with three small (2BA) nuts on the back, and disconnect the wires for the lights.
ImageImage
Alex Holden - http://www.alexholden.net/
If it doesn't work, you're not hitting it with a big enough hammer.
MarkyB
Minor Maniac
Posts: 7845
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:18 pm
Location: South East London
MMOC Member: No

Post by MarkyB »

In theory its as simple as unbolting them.
In practice it has been N years since they were last undone and in that time the fixings have been subjected to whatever British roads can throw at them and will have corroded somewhat.
If you look along the top edge of the inner wing you will see some the captive nuts that hold the wing on.
If you clean the accumulated muck from behind the hockey sticks you will see how they are fixed.
and around the wing the bolt heads of the wing bolts.
Clean all the crud off these and start soaking them in some kind of penetrating oil (not WD40) ASAP.
Use the proper sized ring spanner 1/4 Whitworth or socket. Once it is in place as well as possible (not held half off the bolt with dirt) then give it the " short sharp shock " treatment.
It's the only thing they understand :) .
There are also 3 or 4 bolts on the back edge of the wing the same applies to the heads but you can see the captive parts so you are in the lap of the gods with them.
If none of the captive nuts turn then go and buy a lottery ticket cos the gods are smiling on you :D
mmjosh
Minor Legend
Posts: 1066
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:51 am
Location: Atherstone,Warwickshire
MMOC Member: No

Post by mmjosh »

Welding all done<br>Image<br>

mmjosh
Minor Legend
Posts: 1066
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:51 am
Location: Atherstone,Warwickshire
MMOC Member: No

Post by mmjosh »

welding<br>Image<br>

MarkyB
Minor Maniac
Posts: 7845
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:18 pm
Location: South East London
MMOC Member: No

Post by MarkyB »

Nice welding but shouldn't there be somewhere for the bottom of the wing to bolt too?
I'm just being picky because my welding used to get described as "pigeon poo"
mmjosh
Minor Legend
Posts: 1066
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:51 am
Location: Atherstone,Warwickshire
MMOC Member: No

Post by mmjosh »

lol no all my bolts are at the top but one on the first picture i put on today there is a bold above that.

User avatar
d_harris
Minor Legend
Posts: 4388
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:52 pm
Location: Sunny Brighton
MMOC Member: No

Post by d_harris »

I'm afraid to say Josh that there should be one more captive bolt at the bottom of the inner wing (if you look at a wing you will see there is a section for a bolt to go through at the bottom too...

If you aren't going fret too much. If you don't bolt it up the wing will "drum" a bit as the car goes along but nothing too serious. The other solution I've hear of is a self tapping screw with a chunky washer to hold the wing in place

alex_holden
Minor Legend
Posts: 3798
Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:46 am
Location: Burnley
MMOC Member: No

Post by alex_holden »

Dan_Harris wrote:I'm afraid to say Josh that there should be one more captive bolt at the bottom of the inner wing
Two of them in a vertical line, a couple of inches apart.
ImageImage
Alex Holden - http://www.alexholden.net/
If it doesn't work, you're not hitting it with a big enough hammer.
mmjosh
Minor Legend
Posts: 1066
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:51 am
Location: Atherstone,Warwickshire
MMOC Member: No

Post by mmjosh »

thanks for the advice still got a lot to learn ha ha :P

Dean
Minor Legend
Posts: 2180
Joined: Fri May 30, 2008 9:41 pm
Location: Sutton Coldfield
MMOC Member: No

Post by Dean »

It's ok Josh (we've all been there :D)... another solution is to measure where the holes are on the other side and mark where they should be on this side. Make yourself a small patch, cut out some clearance holes and weld two nuts to it the same distance apart on the patch that they should be on the wing. Cut out the holes in your newly welded patch on the car big enough for the nuts to go through. Then weld your new patch onto the other new patch with the nuts inside the wing. The worst that can happen is the wing sticks out proud from the door by a few millimeters. ;)

Or do what Dan says just self tapper them on.

I think I've explained myself ok....
My Minor:
A Clarendon Grey 1953 4 Door Series II.
MMOC - 66535


mmjosh
Minor Legend
Posts: 1066
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:51 am
Location: Atherstone,Warwickshire
MMOC Member: No

Post by mmjosh »

Wing rubbed down and primed<br>Image<br>

mmjosh
Minor Legend
Posts: 1066
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:51 am
Location: Atherstone,Warwickshire
MMOC Member: No

Post by mmjosh »

rear wings off<br>Image<br>

mmjosh
Minor Legend
Posts: 1066
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:51 am
Location: Atherstone,Warwickshire
MMOC Member: No

Post by mmjosh »

owners club badge<br>Image<br>

mmjosh
Minor Legend
Posts: 1066
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:51 am
Location: Atherstone,Warwickshire
MMOC Member: No

Post by mmjosh »

bootlid

Post Reply