Morris Minor Owners Club

panky wrote:Hopefully that's eliminated that possibility. You could try sitting inside while someone drenches the car with a garden hose.

I had done that when I was sorting the door top leak out and it was only coming through the door top and the part were previous owner cut it near the quarter light ill just replace the door rubbers with the upgraded ones and see what happens

don58van wrote:

it's all bone dry under the seat

Did you look through the holes in the top of the box section (you will need a good torch)?
My Traveller was badly rusted in there.

It will be great news if it is dry and rust free in there.

Don

I went back to it and got a picture for you this is I side the box section[frame][/frame]

P.S it was raining heavy last night and I was welcomes by yet another swimming pool but the box section inside was dry, unde the rear seat was dry and there wasnt any water trickles down the inside of the door

That picture shows serious rust - if you poke it with a screwdriver it will go right through......

bmcecosse wrote:That picture shows serious rust - if you poke it with a screwdriver it will go right through......

You sure..... All seems and feels solid from underneath

I think you need to find out, if it hasn't rusted through it needs cleaning up and treating.

Looks like penetrating rust crust to me.... But scrub it hard with a knotted wire brush in angle grinder.....and certainly treat the surface with rust 'killer' and then paint well...

But this is inside the box panel that runs across the rear seat (the section with small holes in the top Not sure I can get in there

Its the worst place on the minors to get at,but if left it will eventually spread to the floor and then you will have a worse problem.Unfortunately that box section is important since it adds great strength to the frame.
It may be,probably,OK for a time,but will ,in the end lead to a majour rebuild. The usual repair is to cut the section out, to remove the rust and give access to the inside to clean up the floor area then weld a length along from outside.
I wouldn't say it needs doing now but is something that you need to bear in mind. If you cant get at it to scrape off, perhaps spraying waxoil into the box,lots of it,would hold it at bay .Its one of the plac es that most buyers forget,or don't know about when examining the minors,its a relatively common problem where there is water leakage from the rear windows doors etc.

that box section is important since it adds great strength to the frame

The front spring mounts are mounted on the leading and trailing uprights of the box section. So the loads from the front spring mounts are distributed through the body by the box section.

However, it appears that the large volume of water you are dealing with is coming from elsewhere, because your floor recently filled with the car standing still. So the water has to be coming from above, rather than from underneath (from tyre-spray and the like).

So the mystery persists.

Don

If you can get a screwdriver in to scrape the scabs off then slosh a load of Auasteel in there to treat the rust. Its a rust converter and I've used it on my campers on areas where it is difficult to treat, good stuff.

Yes it will/may stop further rusting but will NOT add strength,to the rotted areas.
But no need to panic,it's not that bad .yet..... just be aware that it will need attention sometime in the future,first job is to stop the water,then loads of oil into it.

kennatt wrote:Its the worst place on the minors to get at,but if left it will eventually spread to the floor and then you will have a worse problem.Unfortunately that box section is important since it adds great strength to the frame.
It may be,probably,OK for a time,but will ,in the end lead to a majour rebuild. The usual repair is to cut the section out, to remove the rust and give access to the inside to clean up the floor area then weld a length along from outside.
I wouldn't say it needs doing now but is something that you need to bear in mind. If you cant get at it to scrape off, perhaps spraying waxoil into the box,lots of it,would hold it at bay .Its one of the plac es that most buyers forget,or don't know about when examining the minors,its a relatively common problem where there is water leakage from the rear windows doors etc.

Oh god yeah I'd defonitly keep that in mind then I did think that was the inky way but was hoping it wasnt but yeah it is all dry in there so not sure :S

don58van wrote:

that box section is important since it adds great strength to the frame

The front spring mounts are mounted on the leading and trailing uprights of the box section. So the loads from the front spring mounts are distributed through the body by the box section.

However, it appears that the large volume of water you are dealing with is coming from elsewhere, because your floor recently filled with the car standing still. So the water has to be coming from above, rather than from underneath (from tyre-spray and the like).

So the mystery persists.

Don

Yeah exactly I do have a few more ideas what the problem could be though. I have now fitted new upgrades door rubbers and just waiting to find time to spray water at them.

If the problem still persists I will be fitting new window rubbers and as a last resort sorting a problem I'm not sure how easy it will be to do :S

My drivers door has dropped and it's not the hinges it's the panel the hinges bolt to they have rusted down the bottom

panky wrote:If you can get a screwdriver in to scrape the scabs off then slosh a load of Auasteel in there to treat the rust. Its a rust converter and I've used it on my campers on areas where it is difficult to treat, good stuff.

Ahhh good plan ill get that sorted then after the leak has stopped thanks

kennatt wrote:Yes it will/may stop further rusting but will NOT add strength,to the rotted areas.
But no need to panic,it's not that bad .yet..... just be aware that it will need attention sometime in the future,first job is to stop the water,then loads of oil into it.

Ahhh ok yeah ill get the leak sorted and then get that done thanks for the heads up