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Re: Trunnion bushes
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:30 pm
by philthehill
Just checked again and my digital vernier reads 0.063".
Checked accuracy of the digital vernier against a Dormer 0.5" drill and spot on.
When I can get to my standard Moore & Wright micrometres they have calibration discs and I will check the digital vernier against the discs but I do not expect the readings to be any different.
Re: Trunnion bushes
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:39 pm
by philthehill
Checked the accuracy of my digital vernier against several Moore and Wright micrometre setting gauges and only 0.0005" out over the range of setting gauges used i.e. 1"-2", 3"-4" & 5"-6" measurements.
I have pressed out qty 4 bushes from a pair of New Marina/Ital after market bottom trunnions and fitted a pair into a Minor bottom trunnion.
No reaming required as I expected.
What was surprising was that one new Marina/Ital after market bottom trunnion was fitted with solid non split brass bushes with a straight grease passage and not spiral as per the split bush.
Photo of the brass bushes in the Marina/Ital trunnion.[frame]

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Re: Trunnion bushes
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:41 pm
by philthehill
M25VAN mentioned the fabled Walford Improved bottom trunnion.
A couple for sale on 'e' bay suitable for an Marina/Ital - item No: 221551854021.
Re: Trunnion bushes
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:55 pm
by bmcecosse
Re: Trunnion bushes
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:11 pm
by M25VAN
Here is a picture Mr BMC, the original post about these has gone for some reason.
As you can see, there is a section that screws on to the swivel pin then the trunnion on to that. Presumably either or both of these can be replaced so that there is never any wear created on the swivel pin. They really felt quality as well, just a shame they couldn't be made for the Minor.

Re: Trunnion bushes
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:19 pm
by bmcecosse
Thanks ! Interesting...so it's not an adapter piece to allow them to be used on a Minor ? But - it COULD be !
Re: Trunnion bushes
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:00 am
by aupickup
thats a good idea
Re: Trunnion bushes
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:44 am
by POMMReg
philthehill wrote:bmc
Correct
They are stamped with the Vandervell/Glaicer logo but in a mirror image.[frame]

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Wasn't he a Dutch detective, played by Barry Foster?!
The Marina/Ital bottom trunnion threads wear just a badly as the Minor ones if not looked after.
I have previously owned a 1800cc Marina and a 1.7 Ital and they both needed work doing on the bottom trunnions.
The reason that size of the swivel threads in the bottom trunnion was increased was I believe because of the fitment of the larger drum brakes and on some models disc brakes.
Fitting the disc brakes to Minor swivels does not seem to have had any ill effects even with the smaller dia threads fitted to the Minor bottom trunnion.
Re: Trunnion bushes
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:33 am
by philthehill
It was Vander der Valk but that will not have any bearing

on the matter in hand.

Re: Trunnion bushes
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:50 am
by M25VAN
bmcecosse wrote:Thanks ! Interesting...so it's not an adapter piece to allow them to be used on a Minor ? But - it COULD be !
I think the problem with adapting to the Minor is clearance with the backplate at the bottom and the closeness of the damper pin to the thread at the top. These Walford trunnions are really substantial and quite a bit larger than the original trunnions. The thread arrangement feels a quality fitting, much better than the current "how loose/tight will my trunnions fit on the swivel pin" situation. I never found out for sure if Walford Automotive were still going in Wolverhampton. Can't find the email now but seem to remember talking to these people
http://www.whtildesley.com/ about walfords a few years ago. I'd love the situation to change and for these to be available for the Minor.
Re: Trunnion bushes
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:15 pm
by bmcecosse
If specials were made up to this design...they could have an element of negative camber built in too!