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Re: Binding Brakes
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:14 pm
by les
Yes good point there are usually two spring holes close together. The one that streaches the spring the most is the one to go for.
Re: Binding Brakes
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:05 am
by kennatt
if its all brakes that are binding,and everything else has been checked then surely it HAS to be the only thing common.the masterC. brake pedal or brake light switch allthough can't see how that could fail in any way.everything goes their own way after that point.
Re: Binding Brakes
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:49 pm
by Minornut59
Some good ideas here and backing up what i thought; namely the master cylinder. I'm still not sure why a new Lockheed one would cause this problem.. It should be right shouldn't it? But we live in an imperfect world these days as regards parts quality.
I'm going to inspect the brake lines when i next get a chance as thats a good point; if one has got nipped up accidnetally that may do it. that could also explain why the fronts get hot whilst the rears get less hot, but then again, the fronts would get hot anyway as they are twin leading shoe etc.
i will also check the brake return springs but i've always put them where they were supposed to go so don't see why i should really change them. i suspect the fault is in the master and this may only be side=stepping the problem and not solving it.
Thanks everyone. I'll report back when i get a chance to look at it again.
Re: Binding Brakes
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:12 pm
by bmcecosse
It costs nothing to move the return springs - I did this when I felt I had 'oversensitive' front brakes and it did help that - needing a little more pedal force to work the brakes. I think it will solve the problem at no cost and little effort. If you feel the rears are then dragging - do the same - probably need to drill a new hole there.
Re: Binding Brakes
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:46 pm
by Minornut59
Yes, ok, i may give that a go.
Re: Binding Brakes
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:11 am
by dalgrae
After reading all the articles surely someone must have a known good working master cylinder that can be loaned to him to try then at least it can either be ruled out or proved that it isthis item
Re: Binding Brakes
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:23 am
by bmcecosse
It's a 10 minute job to re-hook return springs, and a very much longer job to swap a mastercylinder - and re-bleed the brakes..... I know what I would be doing.......
Re: Binding Brakes
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:18 am
by dalgrae
I fully accept that Roy, what I was trying to get at was for someone to offer a master cylinder to possibly try if all else fails .He seems quite rightly in my eyes to want to fully resolve the issue, if I had a spare cylinder I would certainly have done so ,then at least he had this offer to fall back on
Re: Binding Brakes
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:27 am
by bmcecosse
Indeed indeed - but I think it is a 'new' cylinder anyway, so presumably there is an 'old' one lurking.....
Re: Binding Brakes
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:18 am
by Minornut59
I have a few old ones but they are of unknown functionability... When get the car back into my garage i shall have a good look at the pipework and then consider swapping the cylinder with one of the ones i have. I think the old one from this car was leaking if i remember correctly so not sure what i did with that.
Re: Binding Brakes
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:26 pm
by MarkyB
Repair kit?
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/adv ... ir&x=0&y=0
Cheap enough though far from a guaranteed cure.
Maybe just dismantling and comparing, old and new will reveal what is going on? Hard to say till you try it.
Re: Binding Brakes
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:47 pm
by Minornut59
Well, a repair kit would be good but in all honesty it shouldn't need it, being a new cylinder..
Hmm.
Anyway, have had a good look at the pipework, no issues there. All bends are gradual, and no kinks, dings etc.
I've been doing a few more local trips and doing lots of country lane driving which requires more use of the brake pedal and some days the car feels almost normal, and then when i drive it on other days you can feel binding.
I always park the car in the garage out of gear with the handbrake off and in the morning the car is easy to push back and forth, but after a run when the brakes are warm its hard to do so.
I'm just going to keep driving it and see if it settles down. I mean the worst that may happen is that the shoes will wear quicker.
i recall i had the same sort of thing on my Austin 1300 about 8 years ago after fitting a brand new master but that settled down after 6 months. This Morris may take longer as i don't use it daily anymore; its done its fair share of hard work!
Fingers crossed.
Re: Binding Brakes
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:21 pm
by bmcecosse
It's not correct - at any time my Trav is free rolling with the handbrake off. Do try the return spring trick - you can always move them back again if you don't like it!
Re: Binding Brakes
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:58 pm
by Minornut59
No, i know its not correct, which was the whole point of starting this discussion!
yes i will try the springs trick when i get a minute.