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Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II - Engine Problems

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:47 pm
by bmcecosse
A good buy whatever condition it was in.........

Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:03 pm
by Jonathan1967
I was looking at my front windows, the felt/seals surrounds seem to be a bit rusty and old, can you get these parts?

Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:33 pm
by bmcecosse
You can get just about everything........ http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewP ... exID=17131

Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:42 pm
by LouiseM
Did you get the fuel problem fixed?

Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:58 am
by Jonathan1967
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Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:24 pm
by brucek
Seems odd that they would rather give you your money back and sell it on, without appearing to offer to fix the problem you inherited, to someone else?

From what we can all see, the car is very tidy and appears to have been well looked after (as much as you can tell that from a photo) - why have they not come to collect the car from your house, perhaps loaned you a spare vehicle, fixed the problem and delivered it back to you? :o

You paid a lot of money (although that's not really the issue) for a vehicle that was not as described and clearly not fit for the road. Personally, I would be chewing their behind every day and demanding some action to fix the problem they left you with and then(assuming they do fix it) after you have driven it for a while to satisfy yourself that the problem is sorted, YOU decide whether to take it back for a refund NOT them!!!

If it were my car I would be in full 'Victor Meldrew' mode by now :wink:

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Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:18 pm
by bmcecosse
:lol: :lol: :lol: Me too!!

Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:32 pm
by alexandermclaren
so would this "other interested party" not want a car that runs not to have it stuck in a garage
i take it the seller will repair it for them
if thats the case whey is he not willing to repair it and get it on the road for you
your money is as good as the next mans

Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:01 pm
by Jonathan1967
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Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:08 pm
by brucek
Well, in for a penny in for a pound. To be honest, I would imagine the dealer will want to keep his 'reputation' intact so SHOULD be willing to rectify all the faults you have found. These should all have been picked up BEFORE he sold the vehicle to you. It could be construed as misrepresentation under the sale of goods act. ie the goods are not as described. Be sure to drop in casual references to the Trades Description Act and Trading Standards when you speak to them and (if you are a member of the Owners Club) also mention that you will be speaking to them to highlight the problems you have had. I would imagine he will then want to get things sorted out fairly quickly!

Despite all that is still looks like a nice car and one worth owning. As has been previously mentioned the issues you have are all simple fixes so hopefully you can get it all resolved quickly and without any further stress. Good luck and let us know how you get on :-)

Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:02 pm
by Jonathan1967
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Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:55 pm
by bmcecosse
Oh - but you said " the dealer who is a very reputable classic dealer " ?? How much research on that did you do - before buying? And have you explained to them that the MMOC Forum is on the case? As for not starting - why is that? You need to give us more information - is the engine turning over good and fast? Is it just not firing up? Have you tested the fuel pump as suggested - to see if it pumps any fuel through? To have another engine fitted could cost anything up to (or even above) £1000 - has the 'dealer' agreed to pay that?

Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:13 pm
by Jonathan1967
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Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:37 pm
by bmcecosse
You should at least charge up the battery ready for another try. It will be something very simple that's stopping it firing. But it does sound as though you are disillusioned with the car - in which case it may be an idea to formally 'reject' the car back to the dealer in an email within 7 days of purchase - which should make them sit up!

Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:52 pm
by Jonathan1967
Yes, I am sure it is something very simple, it drove 80 miles from Devon before it broke down so it cant be too serious.

It is a lovely car and will serve me fine as a town car. I don't live in a hilly part of London. One really good thing is the heater, it worked very well and better than I expected and it was a comfy drive.

Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:35 pm
by bmcecosse
Is there no one nearby who can pop round and have a look at this???

Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:03 pm
by Jonathan1967
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Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:23 pm
by dp
I may be able to pop around at the weekend to see if I can get the engine running and at least have a look at the trafficators. Can't promise I can get it going but I can have a look. PM me if interested.

Experts, I'm thinking check spark plugs for crustiness, static timing, disconnect & check that fuel pump pumps fuel into a container, open up carb and de-crud it. Maybe looking at the fueling first side. Have I missed anything?

Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:25 pm
by brucek
For now I think I would suggest that no one other than the so called reputable garage touches the car - you don't need to give them another reason not to sort it out. Think you need to be talking to Trading Standards really - and tell the garage in the morning that is what you are going to do unless they come up with a plan to sort things out pronto!! :evil:

Re: Morris Minor 1956 Series II

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:20 am
by bmcecosse
The AA lad has already fiddled with the carb etc - so I can't see any harm in having another look. Easy check for fuel shortage is to spray/pour some fuel in the mouth of the carb and crank it. If it bursts into life -fuel shortage was the reason. If still no go - then it's a spark problem. This is a basic check to make on any 'not starting' engine. And the 'reputable dealer' seems to be ignoring the problem......