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Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:52 pm
by stag36587
liammonty wrote:I don't know why you would have got oil out of there (are you sure it wasn't rusty water?) as it's the drain plug for the water jacket. You'll have a job to prime the oil pump through there! :wink:
Oh dear, just as well I didnt put any oil in there- better get back to the manual! I guess it could have been rusty water but definitely oil coloured (black) to start with - wonder if someone tried to prime the oil pump there once before!

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:10 pm
by bmcecosse
Looks like you don't have the oil priming plug although as you can see - that's just above the oil suction gallery. If it won't prime up on the starter with no plugs - come back for further instruction.....

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:48 am
by stag36587
I am excited - The car ALMOST started!! For the very first time I got sparks and fuel together for about two seconds - albeit with clouds of smoke from exhaust (and a bit more round the carb.). I am charging battery before trying again.

What is best way to ensure success now - i.e. how much choke and throttle, etc? The starter also gave a bit of a "whine" at the end of each attempt if that makes sense? Should I turn distributor clockwise, anticlockwise or leave well alone?

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:46 pm
by bmcecosse
Slightly clockwise until it kicks back against the starter - then you have gone too far - so ease it back slightly.

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:48 pm
by stag36587
Thanks - full throttle and choke fully out or will that just flood it?

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:57 pm
by bmcecosse
Some choke and NO throttle...

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:04 pm
by stag36587
Tantalisingly, agonisingly close - it starts and runs for - at most 4/5 seconds!! If I immediately try again - nothing. If I leave for several minutes then it goes for the 4/5 seconds again. I have tried distributor in different positions but no difference.

Fuel pump ticks away merrily when the car has been standing for a few mins then stops as it should and fuel is definitely getting to the carb float bowl from the pump - though no guarantee it is delivering sufficient fuel to keep up with the engine I suppose. The pump is a new one (electronic because points ones were up of stock). what should I try next? So near, and yet so far :)

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:47 pm
by bmcecosse
Does it run smoothly - or is it spluttering and banging?? Lift the idle speed with the screw on the carb - and next time it starts - clamp your hand over most of the carb intake to force it to suck out any muck in the carb....

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:52 pm
by stag36587
Sounds like it is running like a sewing machine - beautifully smooth. I'll give that a go, thanks

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:56 pm
by bmcecosse
And then it just peters out after 4 seconds???

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:10 pm
by stag36587
Yes exactly and it won't restart - will just crank - until I leave it for a few minutes

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:43 pm
by bmcecosse
Next time - immediately pour some petrol (egg cup) down the carb intake and crank it - if it starts - the problem IS with fuel supply.

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:29 pm
by stag36587
Yes I'm pretty convinced this is fuel supply. I took off pipe where it joins carb and no fuel was coming through when cranked, though the pipe was wet with fuel. I took fuel pump off and checked filter - it was clear. Reconnected everything back up and fuel pump ticked furiously but wouldn't stop. So, likely to be a faulty fuel pump I think, unless tank interior is so completely rotten.

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:28 pm
by bmcecosse
Blocked fuel line.......or intake inside the tank. Check the fuel line all along it's length for any kinks or flattened bits.......

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:40 am
by kennatt
well the original thread has now been hijacked,did the original engine rebuild ever get sorted out :(

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:06 am
by bmcecosse
No word at all from Mr Coulson....

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:52 am
by mogbob
Give the guy some slack, he's only just moved house on Wednesday.
Bob

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:11 pm
by stag36587
kennatt wrote:well the original thread has now been hijacked,did the original engine rebuild ever get sorted out :(

And hopefully my starting troubles will be useful help for Mr Coulson and others who have experienced similar problems.

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:20 pm
by kennatt
not having dig at anyone here,but it does help if all the entries in a thread relate to the original posting otherwise anyone looking at it from the start,has to jump back and forwards across posts to check up what has already been suggested so that they are not duplicating advice already given elsewhere.Dosen't bother me much I just stop looking.

Re: Wont start after rebuild!

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:26 pm
by lambrettalad
It might help if we had a few more stickies for the most popular how to's and fixes :-?