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Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:40 pm
by hotrodder13
sum fit 17" but they need diffrent hubs as most are 100mm

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:06 pm
by Kojima
Okay then, well i might go for a set of black minilites, some of them dont look to bad. :)[frame]Image[/frame]

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:09 pm
by hotrodder13
you can find a set off 13 inch which has a small rollin radious so it gets better accserlation, (cnt spell that) and lower the car, 1 spline on the front and blocks on the back, will look ok then, then you can have the wheels
you want, to many people have minilights !!!


tom

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:58 pm
by chrisryder
Kojima wrote:well i might go for a set of black minilites, some of them dont look to bad
i'll take that as a compliment :lol:
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hotrodder13 wrote:you can find a set off 13 inch which has a small rollin radious so it gets better accserlation
mine are 185/60 R14. makes em a little smaller (and makes the wheels look bigger coz of low section tyres) so it accelerates pretty quick. suffers on top end though.

hotrodder13 wrote:to many people have minilights !!!
not many have black minilights though!

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:08 pm
by Kojima
Hey Guys,

Thought i'd carry on my post with a new question, at the moment i've put the car on hold and just trying to build up some funds. But my question is engine's and gearboxes, mainly which type's i should be looking at, i thought orginally a mini 1275cc but ive also seen MG Miget brought up once or twice and the idea of a MG B seires 1800. Any thoughts?[frame]Image[/frame]

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:24 pm
by RobThomas
Mini won't work at all. MGB engine weight is only slightly less than an elephant so it throws out any chances of having a car that handles. Midget/Sprite engine will work alright if you can find one.

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:30 pm
by Kojima
Well my plan is work gas suspension and uprate the handling as much as possible. I just dont know how easy a B seires would fit into the engine bay.[frame]Image[/frame]

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:21 pm
by chrisd87
From what I remember, you have to mount the radiator sideways in the engine bay, parallel with the engine. Otherwise it's too long. I presume you'd have to also modify the transmission tunnel to get the gearbox and overdrive unit in. At the end of the day though, you're basically creating an MGB that looks like a Morris Minor! If you want an MGB then you can buy a GT for absurdly small sums these days.

As already said, the Mini engine won't fit. It's for a FWD car with the gearbox in the sump, not a RWD car with an end-on 'box. Midget or Marina, however, will fit.

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:24 pm
by Kojima
Anyone have an idea where i could pick one up? :([frame]Image[/frame]

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:29 pm
by chrisryder
plenty of people selling 1275 engines on here or on ebay. must be from a midget, sprite, ital or marina though.

there are a few differences in what gearbox can be used with what engine. you can make the minor box fit all of them. it'll bolt right onto a midget or sprite, but for a marina/ital you would have to change the backplate for a midget/sprite one or a modified minor one. with a back plate that will fit a minor box, you can fit a ford 5 speed conversion, which if you're going for big power, will take the power a lot better than a minor box.

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:49 pm
by Kojima
The Ford 5 speed conversion sounds interesting.... :P[frame]Image[/frame]

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:58 pm
by charlie_morris_minor
if fitting the marina engine you can always use the marina box and with swapping gears you can fit the dolomite O\D unit onto the marina box

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:58 pm
by bmcecosse
It's not easy to use the Marina box though - is it? Not much room!!

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:51 pm
by Alec
Hello BMCE,

"It's not easy to use the Marina box though - is it? Not much room!"

Having done so I agree wholeheartedly, if I didn't have a good workshop I think I couldn't have done it.

Alec

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:00 pm
by Kojima
Ive been told by someone that it's possible to fit a mini 1275cc if you change the sump, any truth in that?[frame]Image[/frame]

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:35 pm
by MarkyB
In a word, NO.

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:46 pm
by bmcecosse
You would need to change a lot more than the sump.......... Front wheel drive Minor will be fun......... :roll:

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:44 pm
by Kojima
I dont get how the engine its self has anything to do with the drive system?
They never made more than one version of the A seires?, Why cant it be adapted?[frame]Image[/frame]

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:49 pm
by charlie_morris_minor
Alec wrote:Hello BMCE,

"It's not easy to use the Marina box though - is it? Not much room!"

Having done so I agree wholeheartedly, if I didn't have a good workshop I think I couldn't have done it.

Alec
Without a workshop I would probably not wish to tackle either the marina box / or 5 speed ford job. but I got a great deal of satisfaction on the motorway flicking the switch on the gearstick and getting the Over drive kicking in.. never failed to make me smile!

without a workshop I would probably just go for a 1275 midget engine swap on to the standard moggy box, as from what i understand it is the most straight forward.

Re: New Project Help, Cylinder Head / HS4 Twin Carb

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:51 pm
by Neil MG
Kojima wrote:I dont get how the engine its self has anything to do with the drive system?
They never made more than one version of the A seires?, Why cant it be adapted?[frame]Image[/frame]
I think you will find there are a lot of versions of the A series! A lot of different block castings and a lot of different machining!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMC_A-Series_engine

They are absolutely not all interchangeable! One thing though, the exterior block dimensions never changed much and they can all physically fit into the Minor engine bay!