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Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 11:19 am
by linearaudio
Ye Gods!
You're an optimistic one! Bad rear oil leak, slipping clutch, and you are hoping the oil pressure gauge is wrong! Go on-borrow another gauge, see what that reads! Having just rebuilt an (Triumph) engine only to see it self destruct in 200 miles due to a silly error, I tend to be the pessimist :cry:

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 1:47 pm
by cadetchris
thios car is going to be the death of me someday,

right, i have done the following,

connected the rocker vent to the inlet manifold via a nice pipe ( i didnt drill it, just whipped off the pipe that goes to the servo) and started the engine.
it wouldn't start. it point blank refused.
eventually, it started, but it sounded very very rough, and lumpy. almost like it was running on 3 cylinders.

i disconnected this pipe and reconnected the servo pipe and it started and all was well.

so whats going on? is the vaccuum being created in the rocker cover and the crank to much? are any fumes being sucked into the engine to much for it?

i am very confused as this method seems to have worked for other and yet not on my little lump, so what has gone wrong?

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 2:51 pm
by alex_holden
cadetchris wrote:connected the rocker vent to the inlet manifold via a nice pipe ( i didnt drill it, just whipped off the pipe that goes to the servo) and started the engine.
I think it needs to go through a small hole (say 1/8" or 3mm) to restrict the flow, otherwise it will weaken the mixture too much.

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 3:00 pm
by cadetchris
that would be a very logical explanitation.

however, on a lighter note, i have discovered the source of the oil leak, the sump gasket has yet again gone at the rear bearing, so i need yet another gasket, on number 5 this year. i have read that i can get rubber replacements for the cock a doodle diddley gaskets, any ideas where one can get some of these?

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 3:20 pm
by PSL184
No need for rubber gaskets. You just need to fit the cork ones correctly. The cork pieces should be soaked in warm water first so they swell as the absorb the moisture. Then smear them both sides in grease. The round ends that go around the crank should be treated the same but left 1/4" pround either side of the sump so that when you tighten the sump the gasket is compressed fully into the bend. Also, no more than 15lb/ft for the sump bolts and make sure you have the correct spreader washers fitted under the bolts.

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 3:50 pm
by cadetchris
thats exactly what i have been doing, and still the ruddy thing leaks like a sieve.

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 4:05 pm
by PSL184
Then I would check the sump isn't bent or the block damaged. A good smear of gasket cement might help if you find any "iffy" areas....

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 4:13 pm
by cadetchris
thankfully i do have a spare sump, so ill get a new gasket set tomorrow at newark autojumble, ill see if i can get a midget one with the rubber bits instead of the cork bits

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 5:40 pm
by MarkyB
Try your sumps on a flat surface to make sure they sit nice and flat, they can take quite a beating hanging down under the car.
Some I've seen have all kinds of dents from hitting things and the car being jacked up on them.
Heavy handed mechanics can take a toll too.
Do the bolts up progressively too, it needs to be pulled up flat to work properly.

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 8:44 pm
by bmcecosse
You were told earlier that it had to be a 1/8" hole into the inlet manifold - yet you barge ahead with full bore servo hole!!
I despair.......

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 9:02 pm
by cadetchris
ah, i didnt read that bit.

so, now being armed with such knowledge, where can one get a fixing of this size?

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 9:55 pm
by bmcecosse
I used a servo connection - filled it with Araldite - then drilled a 1/8" hole through the Araldite.

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 10:02 pm
by cadetchris
that would work,
ill get one from newark autojumble tomorrow.

what size should the hole be?

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 10:09 pm
by bmcecosse
:roll:

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 10:15 pm
by linearaudio
3/16" should do it :roll:

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:00 am
by PSL184
linearaudio wrote:3/16" should do it :roll:
Shurely you mean 2/16" or maybe 4/32"....?

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:14 am
by cadetchris
these fractions on an inch are just getting confusing. what size hole would one need in millimeters?

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:22 am
by PSL184
About 3mm

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:28 am
by cadetchris
that makes more sense now.
i might work in lb's feet and inches for large numbers, but when people quote things like 2/32 or 12 thousandths of things, my brain starts to cook

Re: clutch slipping

Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:13 am
by bmcecosse
:roll: :-? :cry: